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  • Problem getting MIDI data from LoopBE30 pipes [SOLVED]
2012/10/31 16:13:47
mbunkerusa
LoopBe30 is like MIDIyolk in that it creates MIDI pipes that appear as input and output devices that can be used to send MIDI data between programs. In particular, I am using the Overture score writer as my MIDI data source, and Sonar as the synth host.
 
I have 8 MIDI tracks coupled with the same number of Dimension and Rapture soft-synths.
Each MIDI track has its input set to the appropriate LoopBE30 MIDI input pipe, and the track MIDI output is directed to one of the Sonar soft-synths.
 
My problem is that Sonar X2 (or any of the previous versions) MIDI tracks do not receive the MIDI input data from LoopBE30 MIDI pipes.  I am having this problem on tracks 1-3, but track 6 works sometimes, as indicated by the MIDI and volume lights on the tracks.  Sometimes the track in focus (track 6 mostly) will appear to receive data, but mostly no.
 
If I use these tracks from Overture as inputs to various synths such as Dimension and Rapture via LoopBE30, they play fine. Of course, only one instance of Dimension or Rapture stand-alone is allowed at a time, so I really want to use the DAW as the synth rack.  Other stand-alone soft-synths also play fine from Overture, I just can't get the MIDI data into Sonar X2.
 
This has never worked in previous versions of Sonar or Pro Audio either.  I do see however after a search on this problem, that others may have successfully used MIDIyolk in this same way.  After years of trying to get this to work, I think there is a bug in Sonar where it cannot read LoopBE30 input pipes.  Any ideas?
-Mike
2012/10/31 22:08:30
dwcaldwell
Mike,

I have used LoopBe30 for a couple of years with SONAR 8.5 through X2. I haven't used as many ports simultaneously or used such a complex arrangement as you describe (I don't have Overture score writer), but I have never had a problem with it.
Have you turned Input Echo on for all of your MIDI tracks?


Regards,
Don
2012/10/31 22:14:01
joden
Can we ask what your controlling device (going in to LoopBe) is?

2012/11/01 10:02:02
mbunkerusa
Don,
That was it.  MIDI echo was set to Automatic.  Changing all inputs to 'Echo On' allows all tracks to play.  Thanks, this tip has really made my day.  I might add that all inputs were set to Omni since each track carries only one instrumental voice.
-Mike
2012/11/01 10:14:07
mbunkerusa
joden


Can we ask what your controlling device (going in to LoopBe) is?

Overture is a score editing tool with MIDI out ports, like Finale, only with a much shorter learning curve, and intuitive and elegant formatting options.  See www.sonicscores.com.  It has a VST engine, but I just wanted Sonar to be my DAW instead of going through a MIDI file to get from Overture to Sonar.  By linking Overture's track outputs to Sonar's track inputs I have instant access to any changes I make to the score.  Later, if I wish, I can use Sonar's features to finish the song.
-Mike
2012/11/01 10:36:08
Mystic38
Mike, perhaps you can changed the title to [solved]..?

was just going to say that i am using loopbe and see no issues, so glad you are up and running!
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