SvenArne

joakes


The speakers are the problem.

Nothing wrong with Alesis M1s. I seem to remember they were the defacto project studio standard around the turn of the century...

That turn of the century thing just sounds SOOOOOOOOOOOOO wrong - YIKES!


Bob Bone

stop dreamin' and start drivin';-) http://fractalaudio.com/p...reamp-fx-processor.php

I am looking for the same sound quality as I would get plugging my guitar into a guitar amp.

 
If you use the Gt-6 (with its cabinet emulation on) into headphones does that get the kind of sound you're looking for?

The Boss GT series does have amp simulations in it. The older GT 5 had the amp sim set up so you had a choice of different cabs that you could mix and match with the different amps. They dis-continued that ability starting with the GT3 & GT6. If you pull up a twin in the 6 you get the 2 12 cab. There is no way to mix up a twin with a Marshall 4 12 cab. I know this because I played thru and still own a GT5! You could also adjust how far away the mic sounded from the cab. If I remember correctly there was a choice of mics as well. I don't know if they stopped building that option in or not. I have used nothing but amp sim plugins now for several years. I love Scuffham but I generally keep going back to Amplitube. Guitar Rig has seen it's share of use as well. My real introduction to the sims was a POD 2.0 with a floorboard. That rig still gets dusted off for trips across town to other studios. Bottom line, if you really love the GT6 but want more realistic sounding cabs, I would dis-able the cab sim in the 6 and use a more modern cabinet simulator. That will probably serve your purposes very well. Hope this helped out!

congalocke


stop dreamin' and start drivin';-) http://fractalaudio.com/p...reamp-fx-processor.php

yeah stop dreamin and start diving......ok then. While this hardware is incredible 16brae may not have an extra 2,100.00 dollars just lying around to buy this. Got to work within the resources we have


ok here is the thing. SvenArne is right. A guitar cab does not have a lot of high end. He said


 "studio monitors or headphones won't ever produce a "guitar cabinet" sound. Guitar cabs are basically very poor speakers with little low and no high end. That's what makes an electric guitar signal (another poor invention, fidelity-wise) sound listenable or even pleasant!"


This is why people still mic cabinets today


This is the issue you must work through be it hardware or software. Nothing against fractal Audio because they are awesome no doubt. Even if he had this it may not resolve what in the end may be a mixing issue anyways.


This is the real question! How would you mix guitar from an amp sim other than eliminate the high end with a shelf eq? I think the solution would be found in that answer, and there are several ways to do it.

@ Marcus, I am not sure what resources the OP has. True an Axe-Fx would not cure mixing problems but it provides piece of mind in getting sound when recording i.e. "If I can't get good tone with this it must be something else." I have heard really good guitarists play with Digitech pedals and never wondered whether they were going through an amp or not. I seem to recall Steve Vai saying how he lamented about his tone with Zappa even though he had the gear (Marshall and Strat I think) and Zappa said that most of the tone was in the fingers...

Try a real guitar cabinet?  There is something about moving real air ...

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Do you have a guitar amp that you can mic?

congalocke


@ Marcus, I am not sure what resources the OP has. True an Axe-Fx would not cure mixing problems but it provides piece of mind in getting sound when recording i.e. "If I can't get good tone with this it must be something else." I have heard really good guitarists play with Digitech pedals and never wondered whether they were going through an amp or not. I seem to recall Steve Vai saying how he lamented about his tone with Zappa even though he had the gear (Marshall and Strat I think) and Zappa said that most of the tone was in the fingers...

I am not really a big fan of digitech. It is really amazing how much goes into getting a good tone. The cabinet, the mic, the speaker, the effects/pedals, the guitar, the pickups, and the fingers are all variables. even the thickness of the pick plays a part in the tone.


I go to great lengths to hunt for a great tone and sound. I even thought about running the TH2 program through my guitar cabinet and adjust just the amp without effects and then go back through my monitors to duplicate the settings. added a cabinet and used eq to try and come up with the exact sound.


When mixing I will do a number of things to get a better tone. depending on the situation I have used de Essers, and multiband compressors in creative ways.


right now I am designing presets for TH2. I wish I could afford the Fractal device.


I agree with everyone else, I think that the op should look into cabinet emulation.

I so want to get on board with guitar sims but so far I'm not impressed. I have Guitar Rig, GTR, Amplitube, TH2 and recabinet but I haven't tried iTH2 and Recab yet. I'm not giving up though. BTW: I've been gassing for an AX FX for this reason. I've been a tube amp guy forever. To the OP: Do you have an SM57 and a small amp to try out?

Rocky