Fog


true pianos that ships with sonar isn't the full version.. and it's not made by them either.. so a bit unfair to compare "like for like"

I use Reason pianos still and of course the ones I got with komplete

I have no choice I have to work with what I've already got.  I've got these and I wanted to become more familiar with them and find out my favorite. They all sound pretty darn good and could be useful. Ivory II is the smoothest sounding though. So thats what I'll probably be using.

I have to go with Ivory II Steinway all the way.  It is so realistic that I can smell the wood when I play a note.  I use the Ivory II Yamaha on some country stuff that needs a brighter sound.  The Bosendorfer is great, but I don't use it.  I know jazz people who love it.

If all I had were True Piano, I would put it in a track with pride, but there is no way it can match the huge sample libraries behind Ivory II.

I often use Ivory II's built-in hi shelf EQ on the Steinway for pop music.  In the old studios on a real Steinway, I would get cramps in my hands and wrists from hitting the keyboard as hard as I could to get a bright sound even when the piano was going to be mixed gently in the track.  Recording Ivory II at higher velocity replicates this and the hi shelf EQ gives it a little more sparkle.

I really like the Atlantis version of TruePianos. Also, I've found that getting the right reverb is extremely important when using a piano. 

Here are a couple tracks I did recently (in X2, by the way) that use TruePianos Atlantis:

http://soundcloud.com/mik..ghorn/anywhere-but-here
http://soundcloud.com/mik..ghorn/against-the-grain


Most of the piano sounds are routed through various granular effects, but there is some unmodified piano as well. I apologize that there's no guitar, rhythm, or bass, so I realize this might sound like radio static to some people.

I've found that just a touch of Pro Channel's EQ and Concrete Limiter make a world of difference and greatly improves Ivory's sound. I'm not looking for reverb on the piano at this time.

djwayne

Fog


true pianos that ships with sonar isn't the full version.. and it's not made by them either.. so a bit unfair to compare "like for like"

I use Reason pianos still and of course the ones I got with komplete

I have no choice I have to work with what I've already got.  I've got these and I wanted to become more familiar with them and find out my favorite. They all sound pretty darn good and could be useful. Ivory II is the smoothest sounding though. So thats what I'll probably be using.

my point was , you can't compare the LE version that ships with sonar to the full version, as it's not the full picture.


I do have a secret piano I use that in a reason refill I bought, I never mention it much as the less people that use it the better (and obviously you have to use reason)

Interesting points about the reverb.  I use very little on the piano and usually depend on one of the lighter ambient reverbs in Ivory.  Too much reverb on a piano can sound boingy to me, but, then again, my style is pretty light on reverb in general.

Fog

djwayne

Fog


true pianos that ships with sonar isn't the full version.. and it's not made by them either.. so a bit unfair to compare "like for like"

I use Reason pianos still and of course the ones I got with komplete

I have no choice I have to work with what I've already got.  I've got these and I wanted to become more familiar with them and find out my favorite. They all sound pretty darn good and could be useful. Ivory II is the smoothest sounding though. So thats what I'll probably be using.

my point was , you can't compare the LE version that ships with sonar to the full version, as it's not the full picture.


I do have a secret piano I use that in a reason refill I bought, I never mention it much as the less people that use it the better (and obviously you have to use reason)

I'm comparing the LE version because that's what I have. I can't afford to buy full versions of everything that's out there. I'm just trying to do the best I can with what I've got. Look, with X2 you can buy all kinds of extra full version goodies, after a while it adds up and gets expensive.

On the topic of the Full version of TruPianos, how are you all getting it to work? I had the full version before it was ever included in Sonar. Now even if I try moving the .dll from the full version and doing vst scans etc, I still cannot get the full version to come up when using Sonar. Any tips would be appreciated. Dave

I don't know how it's installed - it might have the dll path set in the registry in which case you'll need to edit it.

In the apples v. oranges dept. - it's also not a fair test to compare a Steinway to a Yamaha. They are very different fruits.

If I had to choose between them for my living room, I'd go with the Steinway for its playability. But if it was going into a studio, it'd be the C7 for its punch. Fortunately, I do not have to face such decisions because either one would cost as much as a new car.