As I said, I can always come back to sonar, and 60.00 is not a big deal. It won't really be ready for awhile anyway. But there is a tremendous buzz on their forum, back and forth between the devs and users, very good communication there. Most of what they are talking about is beyond me, but it seems to be shaping up nicely and quickly. My situation is that sonar 8.5.3 is obviously dated. I'm not interested in the later versions. I'm also going to be moving to Linux at some point as windows has also lost me. I use Linux exclusively now for everything but music. Still need Windows for sonar of course. But Reaper's ability to work in Linux will be another reason to switch for me. On the other hand, sonar still works fine for what I do, and may prove to be better. But like many have said, no reason to use only one. It's time I tried something else, if only to rattle my aging brain cells.