while i do agree that Cakewalk should go ahead and adopt vst3, i think you should consider that Noel does not really have to be in this forum.  The fact that we see him, Ryan, Billy, Willy and others actually shows that they are trying to stay in touch with their customer base.  I appreciate seeing thwm in here.

bitflipper

Noel continuing to defend Sonar NOT having VST3 support is INSULTING!

Would you be insulted further if I told you that Noel is absolutely right?

i dont understand why you have a vested interest in Sonar NOT doing something....?
 
There are multiple members in this forum that constantly orate a view similar to yours that simply because they have no need for something ergo nobody else does... and yet it frankly is irrelevant that VST2.4 is technically capable of certain things if certain instruments and editors can only be used as VST3..
 
In my own individual case, the VST for a $2200 synth I own ONLY comes as VST3... and the best workaround i have been suggested by a VST3 phobic member is to purchase a $350 third party editor.... I mean, like, really?...??
 
Luckily, I am not at any sort of crisis point on this,  yet when push comes to shove, do you think Sonar will win out over a $2200 synth in my studio?.......... of course not.. I shall use a the tool that allows me to effectively use the expensive instruments that I own...  
 

Quite honestly, if you have this many issues with Cakewalk the company, their customer support, their software as well as their vst implementation, then you seriously need to consider other options.

Blogman

Noel why don't you speak on Cakewalk's timeframe for VST3 support, and not just continue on about what all VST 2.4 can do. 

I`m  interested in an answer to this as well .

Blogman , the rest of Your post was an outlet of frustration and pain :-)

All the best

Jan

No, coming from a fan boi like yourself, I'm not insulted at all. It takes a lot to insult me. I'm very comfortable in my shoes. That's very cute of you to defend Noel.

Moi, a fan boi?  I doubt that would be the general consensus if you asked around. 

You guys have got it all wrong- it's up to VST 3.5 now - that's what you should be protesting about.

I want to use McDSP plugins. Timeframe?

Timeframe on VST3.5 Noel??? Trying to do business here, need to make business decisions.

Blogman


Timeframe on VST3.5 Noel??? Trying to do business here, need to make business decisions.

I completely sympathise with your needs here, but there is no chance that Cake will disclose what is market competitive information in a users forum. Even if done so, my 2c is that if you are making "business" decisions vs hobbyist decisions then you really should never make them based upon commitments, schedules or expectations .. you must make them on what is, now... ie..judge Sonar solely by x2 as is.

Wow...   I can appreciate the "enthusiasm" for this topic, again, but this statement is just so slightly over the top.
 

Cakewalk Might be more of an Industry standard if Cakewalk could HOST the current VST3 standard of the INDUSTRY STANDARD Waves plugin.

 
So if VST3(.5) were introduced in an X2 update SONAR would suddenly be more of an industry standard?   Hmm...  I wonder what all this means for PT, Logic, DP and Reaper...
 
 
(PS... yes, I would like to see VST3.x implemented too.  Not because I personally need it, but because I think it would be both good marketing and a bit of future-proofing)
 

backwoods


You guys have got it all wrong- it's up to VST 3.5 now - that's what you should be protesting about.

I want to use McDSP plugins. Timeframe?

Er, not sure here if this is a joke, but AFAIK McDSP plugins don't come in VST format at all.  It's McDSP you should be asking about timeframes ... I'd like to use them too, but right now I'd have to change platforms completely in order to do that. 
 
But if this was meant in jest, good point.  There are lots more AU/RTAS/AAX plugins out there that we can't use compared to the relative handful that require VST3 for full functionality.  Funny that we don't hear lots of whining about that. 
 
Still, VST3 support will come eventually.  The Bakers ain't stupid -- if they see their market share threatened due to lack of certain features, actions will be taken. 
 
Cheers,
Eddie