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2016/04/02 20:42:32
MBGantt
Increasing the voice limit should not affect what the OP is talking about. I just checked Gypsy, Solo Violin (original one) and the Symphonic Orchestra Solo Violin and all of them have samples that stop. I think the only way you can get what you are looking for is to perhaps use too instances of the same violin. You could have one play the note first, use some CC7 or CC11 magic to go from the note sounding on the first to a fade for the second sustain on the other violin (which is played later than the first). It may be tricky to get right but I can't think of another way to do it.
2016/04/03 11:57:06
robert_e_bone
Thanks for weighing, all. :)
 
It appears to be just the way it is, in terms of how they chose to chop off the samples.
 
The available voices is 512, and I have 32 GB of memory in the computer, so there is close to 28 GB of memory available to Play.
 
The Play documentation talks about setting/changing a parameter under the Streaming tab in the settings, for the Audio Engine - with a range of 1-5 and a default setting of 2.  I see this NOWHERE outside of the documentation - I can't find that parameter anywhere in the user interface, so it appears to me to be some documentation artifact, and not something that exists anymore.
 
I have read nearly 50 pages of documentation in the past couple of hours, trying to educate myself on the Play application, and have to explore the available articulations and my ability to use those to control playback, and hopefully I'll work through how to employ a sustained sound beyond the sample cutoff point, where the additional triggered extension note doesn't really have an attack, so that it blends into a bow direction change for additional sustain.
 
Bob Bone
 
2016/04/03 13:53:42
robert_e_bone
Sure enough - there are a number of articulations for the Gypsy Solo Violin, and one of them causes a trigger alteration between bowing directions with the note simply held.  There is a pretty noticeable audible sound when that happens, which I will play around with to figure out how to minimize.
 
So, this would be solved, from my perspective, as being that articulations allow for additional sustained sound.
 
Bob Bone
 
2016/04/03 13:56:10
TerraSin
Don't worry, it'll be a feature in Play Pro *snicker*
2016/04/03 14:40:40
Glyn Barnes
Interesting what you learn from these threads, I had not really thought about bow changes before, coming from a synth background
 
I have just had a look my Kirk Hunter Spotlight Stings. The legato violin articulations have a very long sustain, I gave up waiting for them to stop.
 
Some of the other articulation, such as marcato have a bow change space parameter where the bow change becomes more noticable as it increased.
2016/04/04 10:21:05
DRanck
The sample length is what it is. I believe that some of the samples in Spotlight Strings are looped.

I have the new Solo Violin from EW, but haven't yet done much with it. Maybe it has a looped sample patch...
2016/04/04 12:05:37
Amicus717
I seem to recall that the one of the solo violins in EW Goliath has pretty long sustains. They are in the orchestral folder, if I remember correctly. Older samples, of course, but they don't sound half bad.

I'm at work so I can't check my own copy of Goliath, but if you happen to have that library installed, it might be worth checking it out.
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