Yes, you either monitor your synth through the soundcard's software mixer (CueMix) or through Sonar. If you have both you get serious phasing problems as you already noticed.

hgj1357


You can also freeze a midi track into an audio track. Then you can apply any FX you want, of course you can't edit it (with un-freeze, edit and re-freeze)

True but I think the OP wants to hear the FX as he plays??
 
I tried to have a look at the manual but they wanted to charge me for it. 
 
One thing to remember is that the FX will not be printed until you either freeze the track or bounce down for a mix.

Thanks guys for the feedback.  My problem did seem to be like you say, I was monitoring both though Sonar, AND through the soundcard.   Still don't understand the d*****d soundcard (!), but at least now I got to do what I set out to do :-)

ULTRABRA


Thanks guys for the feedback.  My problem did seem to be like you say, I was monitoring both though Sonar, AND through the soundcard.   Still don't understand the d*****d soundcard (!), but at least now I got to do what I set out to do :-)

essentially you just dont need that cuemix when you run Sonar.. its a standalone application for routing and fx.. so when working on a project in sonar, disable it.. when simply playing with your gear..use it.

+1 on the Mystic advice and explaination.

I wanted to hook in Guitar Rig to a synth's audio output myself, you have just inspired me to actually get off my lazy feet and sit down to do just that - THANKS! :)

Bob Bone

Oh ... so I can run Sonar without the CueMix ... oh, how I would LOVE to turn the thing off :-)    But, isn't it controlling the overall output level from the soundcard, if I disabled it (I don't even know HOW to disable it?!), would I be able to hear any sound at all?? 

Mystic38

ULTRABRA


Thanks guys for the feedback.  My problem did seem to be like you say, I was monitoring both though Sonar, AND through the soundcard.   Still don't understand the d*****d soundcard (!), but at least now I got to do what I set out to do :-)

essentially you just dont need that cuemix when you run Sonar.. its a standalone application for routing and fx.. so when working on a project in sonar, disable it.. when simply playing with your gear..use it.

Here is some content from a MOTU page somewhere, on turning off the hardware monitoring.  Note that while there may be another way to do this, it does seem that multiple folks in the thread I copied from are doing it this way:

"Quote:
Originally Posted by chucks 
Open CueMix (or CueMix FX) and pull down the output faders on the mix busses.


Yep, dats what I do here. Just pull down the Master fader on the mix buss your using. "

Hope that helps, 


Bob Bone

ULTRABRA


Oh ... so I can run Sonar without the CueMix ... oh, how I would LOVE to turn the thing off :-)    But, isn't it controlling the overall output level from the soundcard, if I disabled it (I don't even know HOW to disable it?!), would I be able to hear any sound at all?? 

Mystic38

ULTRABRA


Thanks guys for the feedback.  My problem did seem to be like you say, I was monitoring both though Sonar, AND through the soundcard.   Still don't understand the d*****d soundcard (!), but at least now I got to do what I set out to do :-)

essentially you just dont need that cuemix when you run Sonar.. its a standalone application for routing and fx.. so when working on a project in sonar, disable it.. when simply playing with your gear..use it.

Well, i didnt mean uninstall or delete it :D..  I meant disable the ability for it to mix.. :)
 
Look at it this way.. i have a Komplete Audio 6.. it provides direct input monitoring and has a huge volume control.. but all input monitoring is turned off and the volume control is at max.. any mixing & level control by the KA6  is disabled so everything i hear comes from Sonar...
So, looking at Bob_Bones post, simply setup cuemix so that it is not mixing.. if the mix is hardwired turn it down, if it is selectable, deselect it..
 
hope that helps..

Mystic +1 on the hugeness of their volume knobs.  I just gave away an old Kore 1 audio interface, and the dial on that thing was so big Ray Charles could have seen it from across the stage.

Ultrabra - turning off or disabling should work fine.

Bob Bone

In this scenario, I usually record the synth to an audio track and then drag effects to the FX bin—although it should work live as well.