• SONAR
  • Sonar X2 and Maschine 1.8 (seth OR BILL!!-i know you are in here.....HELP ME DUDE)
2011/05/27 00:30:42
bigboi
So, after a myriad of problems, I took the plunge and bought a solid state drive.  I came back to the studio, pulled my old hard drive, loaded a fresh win 64 on to the solid state drive, downloaded all windows updates.  Then installed Sonar, downloaded and installed all updates.  Installed Maschine, got all updates, and now I have the craziest behavior ever...here it is:
 
When i insert Maschine as a simple instrument, it loads up fine.  I hit play on the transport, Maschine starts up right in sync.  I can hit the pads, all working great.  NOW, when I arm the track to record, it gets totally crazy.  I arm the track, hit play/record and all starts as normal.  Then I start playing Maschine.....the pads register my hits, and flash, just as normal.  however, the pattern that I am playing ALWAYS starts one measure BEHIND where the transport in Sonar says it is.  Like a time warp....I play, then hear the pads that I hit in PERFECT TIME one measure behind.  Tempo does not matter.  I have changed it from 100 to 130....always a measure behind.
 
Here is where it gets stranger.....If I go in and change the metronome to 0, got back out, arm the same track and push record, all of my pad hits are in perfect time.  If I go in and change the metronome to preroll 2 measures, my pad hits on Maschine are then in perfect time 2 measures behind.
 
I have fought this thing for 2 days since my fresh install.  The solid state drive is worth it's wait in GOLD for anyone wanting to know.  It really flows like glass with the interface.  But damn...damn...damn.......I'm right back onto the forums again with problems.  I have already fully uninstalled Maschine and put it back on...I even rolled it back to 1.5...same problem.  I'm tapping out.  Anybody got anything for me?  Seems to be a metronome problem from Sonar...but I really have no clue.
2011/05/27 01:10:49
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
Bigboi,

Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with Maschine. However, just to be clear, are you saying that SONAR's metronome and Maschine are out of sync when you try to record MIDI to trigger samples and/ or patterns in Maschine?

SP
2011/05/27 01:23:18
LpMike75
Bigboi,
    I have had the same exact problem in the past.  Switching the metronome count in to 0 always fixes it.  Everything will show up exactly 1 measure late even when you play it in time. 
    I never used Mashine but I will have it happen with various other soft synths.  The odd thing is, sometimes it will do it, sometimes it will not.  Settings never change.
2011/05/27 01:24:46
bigboi
I am utterly impressed that you are in here.  Cheers sir.
 
When I insert Maschine as a simple instrument vst, and arm ANY track in the project, Machine then falls behind the exact count of the metronome preroll.  However, it is in PERFECT TIME with the beat.....just behind.  If I start playing the pads, they come in exactly on the beat 1 measure behind.  When I stop the transport, the Maschine pattern continues playing measures for whatever I have the metronome preroll set two.  If I have the metronome preroll set for 2 measures, the Machine patter/pads with come in exactly two measures late and play exactly two measures after I stop the transport.
2011/05/27 01:26:18
bigboi
Thank GOD...at least I am not crazy.  By the way Seth...you guys should know that the main reason I have stuck it out with X1 is that I see you and Ryan and Willy and others ACTIVELY in here trying to sort out our problems.  I almost jumped ship to Studio One, but your support has kept me around.  And check out the joined date...been here a while.
2011/05/27 01:30:27
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
Aha, I fully understand the issue now. You are indeed NOT crazy as this sounds like a bug with either Maschine or SONAR. I know that we are aware of several bugs concerning SONAR's metronome and that we are looking into addressing them in the future. I'm not sure if this specific issue has been resolved, or if it is even known internally. I'll see if I can find out anything. In the meantime, I'd suggest reporting this problem with our problem reporter on our help page.

SP
2011/05/27 01:31:34
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
To add on, since Mike said he's experienced this issue with other plugins, I would guess its an issue with SONAR. For now, just record with no count-in. Hopefully we can resolve this issue sooner rather than later.

SP
2011/05/27 01:37:04
bigboi
Cool...thanks sir.  Good job on the support, by the way.  It's 1:30 AM Atlanta time.  Don't know another company that would care as much to be on at this time.  Like I said, good support from companies is hard to find.  Please let me know what you find out regarding the bug.  Throwing a pretty big kink in the work flow right now.
2011/05/27 01:53:46
DEE MUSIC
I don't like to use maschine as a plugin and someone told me about a rewire plugin check out the demo
http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0115
2011/05/27 01:55:41
bigboi
Ok...so..it only does this when you choose AUDIO METRONOME.  When you choose midi metronome, it works perfectly.  Looks like energy xt is 32 bit.  I am on 64 bit.  Thanks ..maybe I will try it anyways.
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