I hate to do it...well...I actually don't.  This has not been fixed.  We have been through several updates, and an actual BIG UPDATE (X2), and this has not been fixed.  This actually drove me to Studio One.  I still upgraded, out of pure loyalty since I use Studio One now, and I was floored that this has not been fixed in 1 1/2 years.  What gives Seth?  Works perfectly in Studio One.  I support you guys because of the customer service....Love to see you here on the threads.  I just can't understand how a known bug could not be fixed in 1 1/2 years.

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Is this a bug?..yes..  Is it annoying?....yeah, specifically because the ramifications are more than just the use of Maschine.

As additional information for users (and cakewalk) i will add that (assuming a 1 measure count in) this delay is:
 
a. Present when ANY audio or midi track in the project (not just maschine) is being recorded.
b. not in the tracking or sequencing of maschine... the position marker of maschine runs correctly to now time of Sonar, and midi input to maschine is registered correctly at now time.
c. represented as an audio delay of one measure from indicated now time.... ie now time = sonar measure 2, maschine indicated measure 2, Sonar maschine audio track plays measure 1.

had this been an issue with simply recording of a Maschine track then a simple workaround would be to record directly into maschine using Maschine rec button and have Sonar in Play mode.. however this bug means that the rhythm track is always one measure behind whenever any track is being recorded.... effectively this means that to use Maschine fully as a VST you must sacrifice the entire project to have zero count in for the entire duration of recording....

so the workarounds are:
a) No record count-in.
b) use midi metronome : cannot be directed to soft-synth - needs external midi synth or PC midi synth (sluggish)..
c) Record Maschine as stated above (Maschine REC/Sonar PLAY) and then freeze Maschine VST on all other record operations...
d) Use Maschine standalone and drag/drop loops or export tracks to Sonar.
 
none of these methods are efficient or ideal.. so add my +1 to "please please address this"

+1+1+1+1 please fix this. it is such a terrible bug that rears its ugly head on EACH AND EVERY ONE of my sessions.

thx so much for speaking up guys. maschine is the backbone of my workflow. in atlanta, clients expect nice beats and drums. i really want to try to come back to sonar, but this one glitch prevents it.  and it had been here for 1.5 years...and  the guys admit it is a bug in sonar.  i just dont get it.  mo luv on this thread from anyone at cakewalk lately scares me.

  Works great here! Recording in sonar. Follows wherever I'm at in the song.

Blogman


  Works great here! Recording in sonar. Follows wherever I'm at in the song.

 
I read your work(around) process in this post..http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2671407.. you are simply stating that an audio file (a frozen synth) runs in time with Sonar... yay?
 
There is a bug, or you would not need to freeze and unfreeze maschine simply to record some other track..would you? :)
 
So while i am happy that you think your process is "great" please do not confuse the thread by intimating that there is not a bug.. There is, and both current and potential users of Sonar/Maschine are adversely affected.
 

Alright guys.....lets make it happen.  I just called tech support and spoke to a guy about it.  He seemed to be on the ball.  He said that there was a Native Instruments guru in the house, and that he would look into it.

YOUR TURN.  Have your serial number ready and call 617.423.9021.  Ask for Dean.  I told him that we had quite a number of people looking for the fix.  Give a call, ask for him, and let him know it is a problem!

ZO...by the way.....are you on Gearslutz?  I think i have seen you on there once or twice talking about high end mastering compressors.....that you?

By the way, I don't 'have' to freeze, in fact I've left Mashine un-frozen and it bounces to the mix just fine. All patterns going in place (not frozen) I can click around the Sonar timeline ANYWHERE and Maschine follows exactly. I generally freeze everything (or bounce in this case) because it's not uncommon for me to have Lots of virtual synths like VEP5/MIR running strings/horns, percs, maschine, kontakt, more kontakt, etc... I personally like synths bounced/frozen prior to mixing for further eq/editing, however I love loading and automating the Effects in maschine so less treatment is used on those Post anyways. Btw, you have to have ALL of the scenes highlighted in order for maschine to follow Sonars timelines. (double click the gray area under one of the scenes, or Use the pads to select all the scenes) The problem I am having is not being able to use the host control in sonar (aside from using ACT), and customer service was no help for that yesterday.

blogman - the issue is with recording, not navigating or freezing. again - set an audio count-in and hit record; Maschine will not play back in time. Huge bug.