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  • Sonar X2 and Maschine 1.8 (seth OR BILL!!-i know you are in here.....HELP ME DUDE) (p.7)
2012/10/09 15:56:12
Blogman
I wasn't having Crashes related to memory leaking in Melodyne, my problem, that was being responded to in that email was Melodyne/Antares/Gtr rig/ Waves timcode/tempo based plugins not Fastbouncing as of X1d specially due to Cakewalk coding changes. Started emailing about this issue in March, Not due to melodyne memory crashes. "You aren't getting these crashes from what I gather" Again, why would a Cakewalk representative tell me to 'Stay tuned, because it looks like an update is in the works' IF he knew this was NOT my problem in Melodyne, but IN FACT a Cakewalk MISTAKE (called X1d) that affected multiple plugins across multiple plugin vendors. Fastbouncing/Clip Bouncing Worked in X1c fine with melodyne/antares/waves (aside from lacking VST3 sidechaining) I had been told by Phone Support as well that I Wasn't the only one experiencing the Fastbouncing/Clip bouncing issues and that an update to address the issue was in the works. I like the email where I'm told to stay with 8.5 in the meantime. Regarding same issue [In speaking with my manager, we are investigating another issue (possible bug perhaps) regarding very similar circumstances with another customer, so it looks like you may not be alone. I appreciate your patience and as soon as we come across some type of working solution I'd be more than happy to let you know. In the meantime, I would suggest staying with 8.5 for this specifically.] This WAS/STILL IS a Cakewalk issue in X1D. This should have been a quick fix!!! In regards to the channels to complain about customer support, I've written in in the past, In fact, you Personally wrote me back this September 5, 2011: I'm sorry to hear that you've been having a poor experience with our support team. I located your call record and it does look like you've been a long time supporter and have called about a variety of things (some of them simple and installation related, and some of them being faults in the application that you needed help with). It's hard for me to get the whole picture by just glances at the notes in the follow up emails that were sent to you unfortunately. If a customer does report an issue that is an error in the application, our support staff is not supposed to "re-direct" the customer towards filling out the problem report form. I will personally let a customer know about this form in case they run into such issues in the future, but I personally always follow up internally with our testers and developers. The rest of our staff should be doing the same. I will say, however, that the benefit to you as the customer filling out this form is that you will get notifications as to its status if things are updated and resolved. I agree with you when you say that our support staff show "own" at this, and I'm not sure who mistakenly said that we do not follow up internally regarding customer concerns. I will make a point to follow up with our team and your personal concerns in regards to our escalation process internally. For what it is worth, we are in the process of migrating systems internally that will make it easier for all of our support representatives to escalate issues they cannot resolve. I know this doesn't say much for the experience you have had up until this point, but moving forward our support team has a much better path for comparing and merging cases with the data coming in from our problem reporter and testers. In regards to standing issues in X1c, customer support has no control over resolving errors in the application. We can report the issues and express our concerns over the severity of them and how they are effecting our customers, but ultimately resolution to the problems lie outside our support staff's ability to control. I apologize if you are still experience problems of this nature. If you would like to let me know what bugs you are being affected by I will be more than happy to check the status of such issues. In regards to a support representative hanging up, do you recall who you were speaking with and what day/time the call took place? I can pull the call up if you have a rough estimate of the time. Best regards, Ryan Munnis Product Support Manager Cakewalk, Inc.
2012/10/09 16:16:09
Swiller

Back to topic...

Another one for the petition, please fix, driving me insane. Back to reaper for me I think in the mean time, despite me warming to x2 .

Maschine rocks mahoosive style. The wise money is on the old kit. 159 for mikro is an absolute steal, with massive and 1.8 included. It is as important as the 909, 303 IMHO. A true modern classic. 

As a customer that has spent nigh on a grand on cakewalk products in 12 months I have a very basic question...

Is a fix coming, and if so when? No timeline means there won't be a fix to me. So at least have the decency to let us know so us die hard machinists can choose between x2 and something else. I think that is very reasonable.
2012/10/09 16:56:01
Mystic38
Swiller


Back to topic...

Another one for the petition, please fix, driving me insane. Back to reaper for me I think in the mean time, despite me warming to x2 .

Maschine rocks mahoosive style. The wise money is on the old kit. 159 for mikro is an absolute steal, with massive and 1.8 included. It is as important as the 909, 303 IMHO. A true modern classic. 

As a customer that has spent nigh on a grand on cakewalk products in 12 months I have a very basic question...

Is a fix coming, and if so when? No timeline means there won't be a fix to me. So at least have the decency to let us know so us die hard machinists can choose between x2 and something else. I think that is very reasonable.

This is an annoying issue for sure, but I certainly would not use this as a reason not to pick Sonar... there are two simple workarounds
 
a) use a count in of zero ( i dont like this, but some are fine with it)
b) use a count in but use a midi metronome instead of audio metronome 
  i. in preferences>midi>devices; enable your sound card midi synth (or microsoft gs wavetable synth)..count from top to determine port number
  ii. in preferences>project>metronome; select midi metronome, set port # to that above, and in the case of the gs synth try notes E6 for down beat and F6 for others
 
hope that helps
2012/10/09 17:07:40
soundsubs
Maschine is getting to be unusable for me with X2 sp1.
Every time I instantiate Maschine or add it to a project its locking up when opening it or trying to save.
It wasnt this bad in X1.

Can anyone report similar findings with Maschine and X2?
2012/10/09 17:13:04
Mystic38
soundsubs


Maschine is getting to be unusable for me with X2 sp1.
Every time I instantiate Maschine or add it to a project its locking up when opening it or trying to save.
It wasnt this bad in X1.

Can anyone report similar findings with Maschine and X2?

nope, for me it opens fine... i instantiate with all audio outs, and midi in..
 
as a thought, if you are running win7/64 make sure you are launching 64bit vst
2012/10/09 17:23:24
soundsubs
Wow. I stand corrected.
I just checked the 1.8 upgrade and it only ported the 32 bit version for some reason. So yes, now everything works much much better with the x64 bit version.
I can record pads in via the record button on the hardware and everything else.
2012/10/15 07:58:56
Truckermusic
I have Machine 1.8 and Sonar X1 Producer expanded and over the week end I was experiencing the very samee issues as everyone else here. 
 
So please add my name to the list of intrested users wanting a fix or at least looking forward to a fix.
 
As fas as customer support goes, well cake you have always been good to me. Now that is not to say we did not always get it fixed, but, were you there for me when I called or emailed??? yes....email is a little slow, and you can only expect customer service during normal business hours.....
 
But nothing in life is perfect..............and I feel at least you guys sincerly try to help so thank you ......look at how fast you got that Rapture installation issue with DimPro resolved.....Perfect for everyone?.....No......But you at least jumped on it and did it.........so good job...
 
Would I like to see other things fixed? yep....but let's just work on one at a time......so please, let's get Machine working with sonar!
 
Clifford
2012/10/15 12:23:32
yorolpal
As I stated in a previous thread my issue with X2/X1 and Maschine is similar but not the same.  My problem is that on certain (I can't ascertain why only certain ones and not others do this) "scenes" and/or "patterns" the first play through is fine but when it loops anything on the first beat doesn't sound.  As this is happening in a major project I simply reverted to dragging and dropping as audio into Sonar as a workaround.  Of course, for the time being, this just renders me a stereo track.  I'd like to have multitrack audio ported out to Sonar.  I just got groove3's Maschine tutorials and, hopefully, that will show me how to better workaround this weird anomaly.  I'm also on Maschine 1.8 64bit.
2012/10/15 13:28:37
Mystic38
yorolpal


As I stated in a previous thread my issue with X2/X1 and Maschine is similar but not the same.  My problem is that on certain (I can't ascertain why only certain ones and not others do this) "scenes" and/or "patterns" the first play through is fine but when it loops anything on the first beat doesn't sound.  As this is happening in a major project I simply reverted to dragging and dropping as audio into Sonar as a workaround.  Of course, for the time being, this just renders me a stereo track.  I'd like to have multitrack audio ported out to Sonar.  I just got groove3's Maschine tutorials and, hopefully, that will show me how to better workaround this weird anomaly.  I'm also on Maschine 1.8 64bit.


I saw that post.. if there is any value in a second look pm me and i will give you my email addr... see if its the same here..
2012/10/15 19:59:37
OQ
YOP, I was having the same issues but I changed my scene trigger resolution(in maschine) to 1/1 so It would be more percise with scene changes. Also I would make sure you try it with count in off to see if you still have the 1 measure behind syndrome. I called cakewalk and reported the one measure behind but mine only happens if I have the one bar count in set. I did notice the sync between maschine sequencer and sonar is sometimes less than perfect. I hope cake can fix it? maschine is wierd b/c it will start in the middle of a scene sometimes.
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