• SONAR
  • Advice on how to edit silence
2012/10/20 12:25:45
elijahlucian
Hey guys, I am looking to find out how you all edit silence in sonar. breath removal etc.

I am doing some voice acting stuff lately, and I am using a to gate out the soft breaths but because of the nature of voice acting, the heavy breaths before a part do not get gated out properly, an increase in the gate's threshold only leads to the start and end of phrases being cut off... 

I tried to find out maybe a hotkey that works, but right now i seem to be forced to render the gated,compressed file and then remove the breaths manually using a wave editor... 

just seems like something you could do in sonar with little trouble.
2012/10/20 12:36:09
Stone House Studios
elijahlucian


Hey guys, I am looking to find out how you all edit silence in sonar. breath removal etc.

I am doing some voice acting stuff lately, and I am using a to gate out the soft breaths but because of the nature of voice acting, the heavy breaths before a part do not get gated out properly, an increase in the gate's threshold only leads to the start and end of phrases being cut off... 

I tried to find out maybe a hotkey that works, but right now i seem to be forced to render the gated,compressed file and then remove the breaths manually using a wave editor... 

just seems like something you could do in sonar with little trouble.


Envelopes should work nicely.  Still requires manual labor, but they can automate just about any thing that works with good affect.  Volume, compression, expansion - -the list goes on and on!
2012/10/20 12:38:54
elijahlucian
yeah i am using compression and expansion at the moment, but there are always those breaths... ok i think i just need to set up a good hotkey to either mute a certain selection or cut it

envelopes would be good, but i would have to be precise when putting the volume back up to 0
2012/10/20 12:50:15
garrigus
You can also use envelopes with selections. Nodes are added automatically so you don't need to deal with setting any back to 0dB. Check out this video...

* Cakewalk SONAR: Automating Data Selections
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/video.asp?ID=6

Scott

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2012/10/20 12:51:03
elijahlucian
oh rightttttt! as soon as you said that i remembered the new video on envelopes sick. thanks guys.
2012/10/20 13:55:30
robert_e_bone
Hey - Elijah - can you fix the link for checking out your tunes?

Bob Bone

2012/10/20 13:57:53
elijahlucian
ah yes! thanks for the reminder, went thru a few changes lately! 
2012/10/20 13:59:16
Guitarhacker
Envelopes are OK but if you are editing a vocal track, that can get a bit tedious. And takes too long. 

I like to move the track I'm editing to the top so it sets directly under the time line bar. I SELECT THE TRACK.

Now.... I zoom in as far as I need to see the breath sounds and other noise in the wave in the track...

I click and drag on the time line and I see a darker gray section appear in the timeline and also in the track as the "selected" area. Now I go to PROCESS>APPLY EFFECT>GAIN>MUTE  

It's quick, easy, and it works well. If you goof up and get too much or not enough.... EDIT>UNDO...and try it again. 

I use the mute function all the time and have even used it to remove a click in the middle of a guitar track and it was so fast, you didn't hear the edit to mute and back..... 

very useful. 
2012/10/20 14:01:12
elijahlucian
hey that is exactly what i was looking for...

is it possible to set a hotkey for that specific setting? or do you have to open the dialog everytime?
2012/10/20 14:14:21
tunekicker
I'm weird and edit this stuff in in iZotope RX2. I like being able to see sibilance, breaths, lip smacks, etc. visually. 


Peace,


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