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2012/09/20 20:54:55
vaultwit
I have an instrument that is sidechained to "duck" during the kick drum, to get that "pumping" effect. However, whenever I freeze the instrument, it freezes without the sidechain effect. Is there a way to freeze while keeping the sidechain effect?
2012/09/20 21:29:32
soundsubs
im not sure theres a way to do this yet. it certainly didnt ever work in X1.

i didnt try unchecking the "faster than realtime" or whatever.
(tempo based effects didnt freeze in X1, just rendered silence)

maybe its fixed in X2. i'll check.
2012/09/22 10:26:05
Rasure
Ive been using this http://www.xferrecords.com/products/lfo-tool for sidechain pumping effects, it works on the track itself and can be frozen into the track if you select to freeze FX with the tracks.
2012/10/11 21:37:16
vaultwit
Anyone know a solution to this yet?
2012/10/11 22:36:04
bitflipper
I often freeze tracks that include sidechain routing and have not seen this behavior. The sidechain should be treated no differently than any other track send.

Or is the frozen track the sidechain destination? I would expect for that to not work, if the effects are frozen, too. There is, however, an option to leave the fx bin alone when freezing, which would get around that problem.

I am running 8.5, not X1, but unless you're describing a new bug in X1 I wouldn't expect the routing behavior to be any different.
2012/10/11 22:57:52
vaultwit
bitflipper


I often freeze tracks that include sidechain routing and have not seen this behavior. The sidechain should be treated no differently than any other track send.

Or is the frozen track the sidechain destination? I would expect for that to not work, if the effects are frozen, too. There is, however, an option to leave the fx bin alone when freezing, which would get around that problem.

I am running 8.5, not X1, but unless you're describing a new bug in X1 I wouldn't expect the routing behavior to be any different.

You're right, I'm trying to freeze the destination track. I would think your idea would work (leave fx bin alone when freezing)... I'm gonna try to find out if this is possible with X1. Hope it is. In the meantime, if anyone knows how, feel free to chime in.
2012/10/12 02:02:21
FastBikerBoy
I think you'll find that bitflipper's solution is probably the only one.

Freezing the destination is by default disabling the effects bin (and PC) so if that's diasabled so is the compressor that you are using, hence no ducking.

Turning the FX bin option off in the freeze options should allow the compressor to continue working. although I've never tried it.
2012/10/13 09:25:37
cyberzip
I just tried it - it works! Before freezing, go to to Freeze Options and de-select "Track FX". The track is frozen without the bin, and the bing FX continue to operate as usual.
2012/10/13 12:31:38
Jalcide
i always put my sidechained-compressors on a live bus. that way, either the source or destination can be frozen, or not, it doesn't care. the cpu hit is negligible.
2012/10/17 15:50:07
cyberzip
Jalcide - I do that most of the time too, but it's probably not the best backup for future use...
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