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2012/10/07 15:03:43
arachnaut
What's up with this forum topic - the name keeps changing!
2012/10/07 15:16:29
StarTekh
arachnaut: GeForce GT 440..what driver did you use ? this 306.23 WHQL Release Date: 2012.09.13 Operating System: Windows 8, Windows Vista, Windows 7 Language: English (U.S.) File Size: 127 MB
2012/10/07 15:25:27
soens
timidi


Thanks Danny. I think I have that worked out. There's another pic above that shows where I got to.
But yes, you're probably right about using a previous version template screwing things up.

Hey FREDDIE. Pretty sure that Aero is ON. I'll look again. Thanks.

Yes!
 
Audio and MIDI track BACKGROUNDs are no longer independant.
 
Under Prefefences - Colors they are now listed as "Tracks x, xx, xx... Background" so when you import a pre-X2 color scheme the clip BACKGROUNDs will be unaltered from the default X2 black as seen in your 1st pic.
 
Since your 8.5 FOREGROUNDs are all black, it makes a very dark color scheme. You now have to change the BACKGROUNDs in Preferences as seen in your 2nd pic.
 
Oddly, they still list Midi Track Backgrounds, but these don't seem to work. Maybe they forgot to remove them from the list, like a lot of other unchangeable colors.
 
 
Steve
2012/10/07 15:37:41
arachnaut
StarTekh


arachnaut: GeForce GT 440..what driver did you use ? this 306.23 WHQL Release Date: 2012.09.13 Operating System: Windows 8, Windows Vista, Windows 7 Language: English (U.S.) File Size: 127 MB 
My driver is dated 2011-05-20  version: 8.17.12.7533 in the device manager.
That was the 275.33 WHQL package.

I have not tried any newer ones in this past year, I'm happy with it.

I compared several packages at the time I measured the latency: 266.58, 275.33, 280.26 and whatever was the latest version (the one that didn't work for me).

I think the one you choose - you should choose, don't listen to other's, just try them and measure the latency.

But if you play a lot of video games, maybe you should stay up-to-date.

2012/10/07 15:49:08
bapu
arachnaut


What's up with this forum topic - the name keeps changing!

It's Juilen's fault
2012/10/07 15:56:35
Beepster
@Anderton... That's encouraging. I bought my vid card as an afterthought and had to go cheap because I was out of money. I ended up with a Gigabyte but it's nvidia based. It was only $30 and seems to be doing the job without conflicts. I think the tides have changed in regards to Mac's out performing PCs in the audio world. For years I wanted a Mac but I am extremely happy with the PC I built and to get the equivalent power from a Mac I'd probably have had to pay at least an extra $1000 or more and that would have held up my studio another year (because I'm poor). I also find Macs confusing after so many years in front of PCs so that's yet one less learning curve wasting time I'd rather use making music. Off topic but if you're still around I've got a thread going in the Coffee house asking about budget vocal condenser mics... any thoughts on that topic? I'm sure you've tested quite a few. Cheers.
2012/10/07 18:01:56
Bub
Beepster

@Anderton... That's encouraging. I bought my vid card as an afterthought and had to go cheap because I was out of money. I ended up with a Gigabyte but it's nvidia based. It was only $30 and seems to be doing the job without conflicts. I think the tides have changed in regards to Mac's out performing PCs in the audio world. For years I wanted a Mac but I am extremely happy with the PC I built and to get the equivalent power from a Mac I'd probably have had to pay at least an extra $1000 or more and that would have held up my studio another year (because I'm poor). I also find Macs confusing after so many years in front of PCs so that's yet one less learning curve wasting time I'd rather use making music. Off topic but if you're still around I've got a thread going in the Coffee house asking about budget vocal condenser mics... any thoughts on that topic? I'm sure you've tested quite a few. Cheers.
I'm running a Galaxy GeForce 9500GT. It's old but it works and it's very stable. I threw out my ATI cards. Total junk and caused nothing but headaches. Actually I took them to an electronics recycling place along with a bunch of other stuff including my old DAW, an EMU 0404 PCI card, and some dead effects units.

Not sure which Nvidia chipset you got, but they released a new driver a couple weeks ago. Their drivers usually cover a vast range of chipsets.

You have the option to just install the driver without all the bloatware. Plus ... not sure if you are aware, but you can customize how each program runs. I go in and turn off all the extra 3D enhancement stuff, CUDA, and other things. Makes a noticeable difference, especially on low end cards.

If you've never seen it or used it, just right click on your desktop, click Nvidia Control Panel, and go to Manage 3D settings. I also adjust my Image Settings for 'Performance'.
2012/10/07 18:05:03
robert_e_bone
arachnaut


robert_e_bone


If your system has a parallel port you can disable that, as well.  I think that the newest motherboards are starting to do away with those, but unless you are using a line-printer from way back when, you will not be using the parallel port.

You can also review services that are running to see which you can alter to not automatically start.  For example, if you do not have a printer hooked up to this computer, you could turn off the Print Spooler service.  There are a bunch of network sharing ones too, that are used to broadcast your computer to the network and that sort of thing.  Your audio-tweaked computer is likely not going to need those either.  There is a Black Viper link out on the web that talks about which services you can safely turn off and which ones are needed for normal Windows processing.  I think I saw it go by in one of the posts in this thread.  That has good info in it.  I think it is: www.blackviper.com

If you run into problems with services after turning them off, you can always start in safe mode and undo the carnage - just make sure to note which services you had tweaked and set them back.

Good luck,

Bob Bone

I second that on the old serial/parallel/legacy support in BIOS - get rid of them all.
Also second that on Black Viper's site.


Also, as said, this stuff is probably not going to change your problem - it looks like a bad install to me.


I have had practically no problems with X1D and no problems yet after the X2 308 fix. I've made a lot of changes to my installation after X2 - moving all the samples around, removing the DXI functions, changing VST paths from 64 to 32-bit were appropriate, etc., etc. So my installation is not very normal - but still, I have no problems at all, so a 'normal' install should be 'better'.

Little glitches here and there, maybe, but no crashes or audio-impacting events.



I forgot to mention that you can probably also get disable any IDE ports, unless you are still using one of those old -pin monstrosities.

I also agree that installing over again looks warranted - hopefully between making some of the other changes and a nice new install, things will work better, 


Bob Bone


2012/10/07 18:39:01
timidi
fwiw, I didn't have any problems till X2.
2012/10/07 19:00:44
timidi
The PC Audio Labs guys recommended the nVidia card I'm using, and overall stability is much better than when I was using an ati.



Hi Craig. Which card is that exactly? A Newegg link would be great.
Thanks, Tim
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