• SONAR
  • Not too happy with X2 (p.15)
2012/10/07 19:18:19
JonD
IMO, your upgrade install screwed something up.... Chasing down those patches and doing tweaks are more than not likely to fix your problem.
 
If it were me, I'd find some time and do a clean uninstall of X1 and X2 (everything, incl. registry entries), and then do a clean install of X1, then X2 (or just do X2, if you feel particularly brave).
 
Do you use backup imaging (ie. True Image, Paragon Backup, Win7's built in uility, etc)?  Your situation is a perfect example why one should always have the ability to "go back" to a safe point if an install/upgrade goes south.  (I can recommend Paragon's free version, which I've been using for about 2 years with no problems whatsoever).
 
BTW, I can add myself to the list of users who installed X2 without any issues.  (It should be mentioned that I completely removed X1 first, as I am just a hobbyist and was in-between projects -- which made it a fairly easy decision for me).
 
Good luck, whatever you do, and keep us posted.
2012/10/07 19:20:18
Beepster
Cool. Thanks for the tips, bub. I was meaning to really dig into all the weird settings on this vid card but got swept up in everything else. I'll definitely take a look at all that. Hope you are settling in well to the new place. Cheers.
2012/10/07 19:31:20
timidi
JonD


IMO, your upgrade install screwed something up.... Chasing down those patches and doing tweaks are more than not likely to fix your problem.
 
If it were me, I'd find some time and do a clean uninstall of X1 and X2 (everything, incl. registry entries), and then do a clean install of X1, then X2 (or just do X2, if you feel particularly brave).
 
Do you use backup imaging (ie. True Image, Paragon Backup, Win7's built in uility, etc)?  Your situation is a perfect example why one should always have the ability to "go back" to a safe point if an install/upgrade goes south.  (I can recommend Paragon's free version, which I've been using for about 2 years with no problems whatsoever).
 
BTW, I can add myself to the list of users who installed X2 without any issues.  (It should be mentioned that I completely removed X1 first, as I am just a hobbyist and was in-between projects -- which made it a fairly easy decision for me).
 
Good luck, whatever you do, and keep us posted.

Jon, Your right. My upgrade to X2 screwed something up. Why would I want to try to re-install it?
My computer was working just fine.
How does one go about getting this thing totally uninstalled. I have a restore point. I even did a system image, however, that doesn't work. Will the restore point clean out the registry after an 'uninstall'?

2012/10/07 20:20:59
arachnaut
timidi


Jon, Your right. My upgrade to X2 screwed something up. Why would I want to try to re-install it?
My computer was working just fine.
How does one go about getting this thing totally uninstalled. I have a restore point. I even did a system image, however, that doesn't work. Will the restore point clean out the registry after an 'uninstall'?

I think, maybe, we are hinting that you did something wrong or something went wrong the first time.


But if you say that your system image doesn't work, I'd say that your system isn't working as well as you think.


Personally I don't use system restore points, I just make full image backups before I make any major changes.


I absolutely demand that image backup software work reliably, that's why I'm so hard on Acronis True Image 2012 and 2013.
2012/10/07 22:19:24
timidi
Just to clear some things up. My main problem with this X2 install is how it has screwed up Rapture as explained here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2685335

Thanks for all the help and advice and links and stuff so far.....
2012/10/17 15:49:17
brconflict
Danny, I can be criticized for my lack of forum involvement in that issues I have had with X1 went largely unreported to the forums. Many times I would curse and restart Sonar, rather than go to the forums. Maybe the forums are better than Cakewalk Support (I certainly hope so). My experience with Support was fruitless (Cakewalk should look into Webex). Also, I reported a few bugs, but found the bug submission form klunky and not very easy to fill out for a semi-technical guy. My perception of Cakewalk is that it's not really a large group. If the CTO posts on here, that tells me it's a tightly-knit group, advantageous to free-flowing ideas and fast-paced advances. What it doesn't do, is instill me with a sense of in-house thoroughness that larger companies typically boast. I don't doubt the product was well-tested, and possibly some of the most constructive people brought in to help. But to be competitive, you have to keep these costs low. Understandable. So, its really a variable choice between amount of time spent on new ideas/features, or trying longer and with more resources to find and kill more bugs found. What I'm asking is that Cakewalk slow down the new-features list and place a little more emphasis on killing bugs. As a customer, I'm merely stating that I'd rather spend MY money on stability vs. new features. Side-note: I only use Intel CPUs and Motherboards (or ASUS), RME and CreativeLabs I/O's, Kingston RAM, nVIDIA Video cards, and Western Digital hard drives to keep the hardware variables to an absolute minimum. Windows 7 32-Bit and 64-Bit. I run into Sonar issues pretty frequently with X1, so my confidence in X2 has run the other way for the moment.
2012/10/17 16:00:04
robert_e_bone
Hey, Timidi - did you ever get that Rapture issue resolved?  I didn't really check back on it - just curious.

Bob Bone
2012/10/17 20:33:25
J-A-G
Timidi
 
I feel for you in regard to a comment you made about not having the time to mess with fixing the issues.
 
It seems that just about every upgrade I have ever done to Sonar has had issues. Especially with DimPro and Rapture. Every upgrade I wonder what issues I will run into and hope that Cakewalk would address and make it easier.
 
I have to say that because of this I know what to expect and am able to troubleshoot and correct right away even before they patch. But some folks just want to install and go and I understand this.
But I also have to say that I have never really experienced this with PC software in general. They are always fixing issues and bettering software. It is an ongoing process.
 
I actually have not had one issue with X2 other than the DimPro/Rapture issues and I think it was well worth the upgrade price and I am so-far quite happy with it.
 
I hope you find the time to figure it out or can get the new patch for DimPro/Rapture issues and start to enjoy the new X2 as much as I am.
 
(love your music btw)
Peace.
John
 
X2 Rapture Patch
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013294
 
2012/10/17 21:37:49
Splat
> Point is, I have better things to do than to try and search this forum or the net for answers to problems.

Wow people actually gave you advice after that statement...?~

> Thanks for all the help and advice and links and stuff so far.....

Too right! Clearly there are very nice people on this forum... eh?
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