timidi- to each his own. My point was that at some point you are likely to face dealing with the X series or whatever follows that if you stick with Cakewalk or starting from scratch with another system.  You say you don't have the time to invest in a product you paid good money for , yet you have the time to complain about it.  Not trying to be a smartass, but most of these expensive software programs require some amount of fiddling.  I love After Effects CS6 but it took some serious working with my video card drivers to stop the cr4ashing when i used open Gl.  It works mostly pain free now.

As far as the VST thing, Cakewalk is not the first and won't be the last to license software from a third party and require it only be used within the system.  i recall when soundforge first started including the Izotope suite they mistakenly left it unlocked but that was quickly patched up. Breverb is a damn good revereb and i am sure Overloud set the conditions of the licensing so as not to compete with their product.  Those who wan tto use it in other application can upgrade and use it however they like.  Those who don't hav ea damn good built-in reverb.

As far as the preview bus, I'm not even sure what you find to be broken.  

I'm pretty sure VST in this X2 context means that it can be loaded in the FX bin and not just the PC.   And although the marketing blurb really wasn't very explicit, it's certainly not the first VST format plugin to be locked to its host.
 

why is it people that usualy complain about something not working right never have anything written in their signiture?
im just curious,,why?
like what os are you using,like what soundcard are you using?
nothing?
if you want help you need to ask,provide information about yourset up.
maybe you dont want help?
if you dont,whats the purpose of this thread?

im not a fan boi or a product lover.
im someone who bought x1 and now just bought x2(as soon as it came out)
a week later and im telling you nothing but good things here.
im actualy floored at how many cool updates it has now and how flawless its been for me.
o wait...i dont like TH2 that much..just not my bag..i like guitar rig.
i just finished a project with 27 tracks,5 synths,2 sampled kicks,a sampled snare.
a slew of 3rd party plug ins and some of cakewalks as well and i couldnt break this thing if i wanted.

i am very pleased with the outcome of this daw.
give it an A+.
the demention pro and rapture...well those arent new versions,so why would i even bother trying to install those?
didnt have that problem.

I'm not trying to dump on the OP.  I'm just trying to offer  another view for him to consider.  From his post it sounds like he made no investment in trying to fix anything.  Perhaps he spent months trying to get X1 to work and has too much frustration to have patience with X2.  i will admit if X1 never worked on your computer, it is unlikely that X2 will work properly.  Hence what i said about future upgrades. I know X1 did not work at all when i installed it but it turned out that it was bloatware from my computer causing havoc.  if i had just shelved X1, those problems would have manifested themselves on X2 and any future update. 

There is a lot of sound wisdom in this thread.

sound wisdom

 
Very apropros considering where we are.  

timidi


If anyone's keeping track of bugs, the preview bus in the loop browser is still broken. Actually it's broken worse than it used to be.

The fact that your preview bus in the loop browser is broken is very telling about your system in general.  It's probably the  simplest process that SONAR has to handle.... find a sample, play it through your sound card. 

We all would be interested in knowing what your system specs are.

Best of luck,
Rob

Well I'm not here to rag on anybody but when I bought X2 I expected to not use it at all until the first patch or at least saw that the forum folk weren't experiencing any major showstoppers. After the first week or so I saw most people were doing okay with it so I decided I'd give it a go and installed it... but I was cautious and made an system image beforehand and kept X1 installed to revert back to if X2 was too buggy. If it was I could keep working in X1 while the bakers fixed it. I agree that paying customers shouldn't be beta testers however extensive testing might jack up the price and make it less accessible to a broke arsed mayo fraggler such as myself. There are some bugs and yes they annoy me but so far I'd rather tolerate the little quirks than revert back to X1 because in my n00b opinion X2 is just a MILLION times easier to work with and I've been at my DAW non stop creating since I fired up X2. X1 was cool and all but it was a chore to work with at times and not as much fun. The point is if you keep the old version installed and have an image to rollback to if catastrophe strikes then there shouldn't be a problem. Even I know that early releases of Sonar inevitably need some patches (just like pretty much ANY program) before it becomes stable. Frankly I think X2 is MORE stable upon first release than X1 is after having four major patches released and being out for almost 2 years. Give it a chance. It is a very nice program and once they get the kinks worked out it's gonna SMOKE. I am FAR from a fanboi and will take any LEGITIMATE opportunity to cry foul but Cake has never really given me a reason to. For that I thank them. Cheers.

a broke arsed mayo fraggler

 
Sorry for the continued quotes, but there are some keepers floating around.  

Specs: Audio only machine.

CPU
Intel I7-2600k SandyBridge

Mother board
ASUS P8P67 Rev 3.0 P67 B3 Revision
bios 1704

16 gigs Corsair Vengence (4X4gigs)

Video
ati Radeon HD 5450
driver date 5/24/2011
version 8.861.0.0

System drive WD
2 Seagate baraccuda drives

Win7 64

RME AIO Soundcard