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  • Not too happy with X2 (p.8)
2012/10/06 04:54:38
dubdisciple
the point that seem so be getting lost in this thread is that, as frustrating as it is, the problem is likely rooted in drivers or some other software issue outside of cakewalk itself. If people are coming forward with similar configurations and not having the same experience it seems reasonable the OP's issues can be fixed if he is willing to take the time to get to the root of the problem instead of hoping the next update is a homerun. The infinite hardware/software configurations in windows vs a Mac really stands out during these times. mac has a much tighter control on hardware and is quick to abandon previous versions of the OS just so that they can make compatibility of the latest software easier to predict.
2012/10/06 06:24:44
John
I have him blocked, and I've been a LOT happier. You should try it ... I can only imagine what drivel he slung your way. Probably something along the lines of defending steinberg or something stating that VST is not an open source ... and that is a total guess as I have him blocked and can only see two green lines ... but he usually just says the opposite of what you say just to royally piss you off ...
Bub, please don't comment on a post you have not read.
2012/10/06 07:25:30
rscain

Hey Tim
I have the Radeon 5450 and I think it's causing me a lot of problems as all of my crashes on X1 and X2 seem to be graphics related.
I did some research and most of the reviews of the 5450 mention that it's a lot slower than the cards it replaced in the ATI lineup and most other cards in its' price range with the same specs, memory, etc.
As soon as I can find the time and cash I'm gonna replace mine with an NVidia card.
Dunno if it will help me or you but to me it's worth checking out because I really like X1 and X2 and if changing a (relatively) cheap video card will smooth things out I'm all about that.

Good luck bud, and keep making that great music!
2012/10/06 07:42:48
Freddie H
timidi


Specs: Audio only machine.

CPU
Intel I7-2600k SandyBridge

Mother board
ASUS P8P67 Rev 3.0 P67 B3 Revision
bios 1704

16 gigs Corsair Vengence (4X4gigs)

Video
ati Radeon HD 5450
driver date 5/24/2011
version 8.861.0.0

System drive WD
2 Seagate baraccuda drives

Win7 64

RME AIO Soundcard


Sandy Bridge is bad for audio...should still work without any crashes. Made any tweaks with your system? Disable AERO set to background scheduler and so on? XP tweaks on Win 7? this can might cause your problem.
2012/10/06 07:59:58
Stone House Studios
John



I have him blocked, and I've been a LOT happier. You should try it ... I can only imagine what drivel he slung your way. Probably something along the lines of defending steinberg or something stating that VST is not an open source ... and that is a total guess as I have him blocked and can only see two green lines ... but he usually just says the opposite of what you say just to royally piss you off ...
Bub, please don't comment on a post you have not read.
 
Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!  How can you talk to someone who has you blocked!!!
 
Oh wait, I know!  Someone has to quote you.  :  )
 
Brian

2012/10/06 08:11:40
John
Brain I think its best to let it go. Its a disruption and detraction to the thread. I do reserve the right to respond. I just wish there was no need to.
2012/10/06 09:06:13
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
timidi. I am sorry you are having problems. X2 is the most solid version we have released to date and innumerable issues going back to 8.5 and much earlier were addressed as part of X2.
The first thing I would do is make sure you are running the quick fix from here:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2676642

That fixed a couple of issues that could lead to some seemingly random instability. If you are still seeing issues after that your best and fastest recourse would be to troubleshoot it with support. It might be an installation issue something very specific to how you use the program so it requires troubleshooting. The other thing to do is submit problem reports. That is the only way cakewalk can link back to you and know what specifically happened when your system crashed. 
2012/10/06 09:16:55
myconsumerclub
only time my system crashed I was using a gimicky synth like proteus rewired through reason. Free synths can be dangerous to use so it seems.
2012/10/06 09:19:05
pwal
you can check if it's the synth causing the issue by using the synth in another host, thus ruling out the host
2012/10/06 09:40:14
harpman58

Noel,


Very impressed to see the CTO checking the forums.  I'm the CTO of my IT based business.  I'm going to share what I posted on another thread.  The thread had to do with "latency and latent plugins". This is by no means a shot against Cakewalk, your support staff has always been helpful. I'm excited about the new features/functionality of X2, but not at the sacrifice of performance. I'm really hoping my results come back in favor of X2. (BTW, I am running the "Quick Fix")


I've been a loyal Cakewalk customer for many years and really don't want to invest in another product.  Here's my post.  May come across negative, but these are my observations and how I approach things. Please take it as constructive.






I've been in the IT business for 40 years and the way I troubleshoot is "Process of Elimination".  I'm tired of throwing $$ into hardware only to be disappointed.  I also get tired of the "finger pointing" on where the problem lies.  For the last time, I've purchased a PreSonus 1818VSL Audio Interface.  They have their own software (Visual Studio Live) and there is a 3rd party iPad app called "Auria" from Wavemachine labs.  So I'm going to try running both of these apps and if they outperform X2, then it is clearly an X2 issue and Cakewalk needs to step up to the plate and fix their product. Just so you know, I'm not using any plugins that aren't integrated into X2 and/or developed by Cakewalk. So, when you mention "latent plugins", I'm assuming you're talking "3rd Party"?  If we are talking "BREVERB, R-MIX, Console Emulator, or any of the other Cakewalk developed plugins, then I have a real problem with that. Don't give me all the "Marketing Hype" to sell me X2 when it comes with "latent riddled" plugins.  Feel me?

I've been using Cakewalk products for years even before the branding SONAR came to market. I've removed any potential bottleneck from my DAW by disabling unnecessary apps (i.e. A/V, Disk Defragmentation software, etc) and even disabled CPU core parking. My quest for the "Holy Grail" is to have a system I can use in the studio as well as on the road (live gigs), without the latency. If I come the the conclusion that an iPad (of all things) can work with my PreSonus 1818VSL or their own VSL software, I'm going to shelve X2 and be done with it. Software manufacturers (that includes Microsoft), keep developing products that require more resources ("FAT" software), versus other manufacturers that develop "resource friendly" products.  My vote is with the latter.





Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
]

timidi. I am sorry you are having problems. X2 is the most solid version we have released to date and innumerable issues going back to 8.5 and much earlier were addressed as part of X2.
The first thing I would do is make sure you are running the quick fix from here:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2676642

That fixed a couple of issues that could lead to some seemingly random instability. If you are still seeing issues after that your best and fastest recourse would be to troubleshoot it with support. It might be an installation issue something very specific to how you use the program so it requires troubleshooting. The other thing to do is submit problem reports. That is the only way cakewalk can link back to you and know what specifically happened when your system crashed. 


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