• SONAR
  • DUMPING SONAR!!! (p.6)
2012/10/15 03:18:05
GlennP
Check this out… http://www.xlnaudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4650
 
At the end of post 3, joep46 states… “I have to take a pill now!!!”
 
Maybe, just maybe, he took one of (or serval) of these pills “last Thursday” and he fell into a deep deep sleep. Zonked! Where he dreamed a wonderful dream. He dreamed he was recorded a "great searing lead line" then a "wonderful syncopated synth line" then, recorded a "clever Bass line that added so much". Took a break for a while and drank a really nice cup of hot tea with a piece of lemon that real invigorated him, so, once again he jumped into action and "spent hours and hours tweaking and refining all his drum programming". Sitting in front of his PC he suddenly felt extremely and completely drained, so he closed his eyes. He had a happy simile on his face knowing he had produced such a masterpiece without even needing to turn his computer ON! Oh! Sonar X2, where did "I go wrong"??... 


Well... I hope we can all learn from this and never ever drink a really nice cup of hot tea with a piece of lemon while recording a masterpiece.



2012/10/15 03:24:02
LJB
Three things I learnt the very very hard way:
1) save compulsively
2) save versions as you go i.e. Song A 01 Acoustic, Song A 02 Vox etc
3) backup backup backup

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2012/10/15 03:34:01
Kenneth
robert_e_bone


I was wrong about my redundant backup of the projects folder.  I DO keep that prior version, but ONLY until the backup of the projects folder completes.

The weekly does delta and a restore image and all of that.

Wherever this guy lands - I think he is already long gone, or at the very least pissed off at himself and the world, but anyways until he learns from things like this to heed the advice of the COUNTLESS times we are told to backup data (they even have commercials for backup sites and software during FOOTBALL games), he will continue to go through life really really angry.

I didn't have a meltdown when my lack of backups bit me BIG TIME.  I just vowed to myself that it would NOT happen again, and I implemented the steps to see that to the best of ability it does not.  Since it looks like it's everybody else's fault that this happened to him, my hunch is that he will be posting something like this in someone else's product forum.

Bob Bone

What are you using for delta copying?

I've been looking at some of the open source backup solutions, none of the pay ones have delta copy for some reason.

Having a good backup with delta would mean I could move all my external backup drives to my file server so I don't have to deal with the constant spinning down that are built into them, it drives me insane.
2012/10/15 03:42:58
robert_e_bone
I just use Windows Backup that is part if Windows 7.

Here is some text from a Microsoft Answers post - from a MS engineer:

"Support Engineer
Hi Southern Sunshine,
 
The backup Windows 7 follows is incremental backup. Windows Backup will add new or changed information to your subsequent backups. If you're saving your backups on a hard drive or network location, Windows Backup will create a new, full backup for you automatically when needed.
 
Refer the below links to know how Windows 7 backup and restore process works:
 
Back up your files:[link=http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/back-up-your-files]http://windows.microsoft....ws7/back-up-your-files[/link]
 
Backup and restore: frequently asked questions:[link=http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Back-up-and-restore-frequently-asked-questions]http://windows.microsoft....uently-asked-questions[/link] 
 
How does Windows choose which files to back up?:[link=http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/How-does-Windows-choose-which-files-to-back-up]http://windows.microsoft....which-files-to-back-up[/link] "


It initially does the whole shooting match (full), then only the delta.  I also have it do a system image - creates an image of the Windows files needed to boot.


On my system, I have it set to run every Sunday night, at 11:00 PM, and it runs less than an hour, on average.


Bob Bone


2012/10/15 03:52:32
robert_e_bone
Hansenhaus


The OP is probably a troll but the lesson that should be learned from this thread is ALWAYS use AUTO SAVE. It has saved my butt many times over. Especially when I do something to a mix I can't reverse like accidentally holding the CTRL key without a quick group selected and moving a fader. All the faders end up moving and there is no way to undo that level of damage. I just close the project and load my last auto saved version and I'm good to go. I typically have my autosave set to 5 minute intervals and 2 versions being saved. 

Eric, this is why for me, that I rely on SPECIFIC backups, as often these phantom movements don't get noticed right away, and it makes it hard to know sometimes if a particular auto-save captured everything in a good state.


In the TINY portion of my brain responsible for responsibility, the act of KNOWINGLY saving at a certain point - after completing some definite edit point cuts down on the guesswork, as I make sure that things are sounding and looking OK prior to actually hitting Save.
Again, it's whatever kind of water floats your however you made it boat - personal choice.


There are 2 common factors here: First, most of us who are buttly-retentive about backups do so because we got lazy at some point in the past and paid dearly enough for it that we don't want that to happen again, and secondly, since dearest Joe is blaming Obama and disco for his troubles and not taking ownership over not backing up he is realistically not ready to make an internal commitment to doing backups.  As such, I predict a painful future for him - even though it will be the fault of the DAW, Microsoft, Gremlins, and alien abduction.


I went to sleep at 11 last night, once my backup started, and you know what?  I feel RESTED, knowing that if the sun does not rise this morning, I can easily make it yesterday once more (thank you Karen Carpenter), and that knowledge makes that first cup of Joe (pun intended) taste better.

Bob Bone

2012/10/15 04:04:09
vmw
If you come from the early days of the 1980s computing you are automatically in the save constantly  mode. As well as saving as versions, have auto-save on and use a scheduled backup program to back up all the files up to another drive.
2012/10/15 05:03:36
Danny Danzi
vmw


If you come from the early days of the 1980s computing you are automatically in the save constantly  mode. As well as saving as versions, have auto-save on and use a scheduled backup program to back up all the files up to another drive.

*Raises hand* My left hand is in a constant state of ctrl+s for life.
 
-Danny
2012/10/15 05:21:41
Bristol_Jonesey
It's ctrl + z for me
2012/10/15 05:32:56
Chregg
"*Raises hand* My left hand is in a constant state of ctrl+s for life. " + 10^ 1,000,000
2012/10/15 05:47:13
robert_e_bone
Hey Chregg - your soundcloud page is toast.  Is there a different one, so I could check out your tunes?

Bob Bone
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