Hi guys,  So basically i come from the land of Pro Tools and cakewalk 9 (old skool i know), and i really dig the set up of the latest Sonar platforms. What is really bugging me and i can never find anything to educate myself on this, is i cant edit any of my guitar, vocal or instrument takes once ive recorded them like i could in Pro Tools.  By this, i mean for example i could just record a track, click and drag over it and pretty much delete parts of it, snip it, cut it, edit the .wav and pre roll over it, but with Sonar i cannot find a way to do this, and its pretty much the only reason i dont use it and its annoying as hell! This is basic editing stuff and i still cant find how to do it.  If your'e still confused on what i mean, i basically just want to edit the audio file, but when i double click the .wav in Sonar it goes big and i cant do anything? Even in Cakewalk 9 i can edit the audio take to some extent even though its basic and old as hell!!  What am i missing here guys, can anyone chuck me a tutorial video or school me on this so i can FINALLY use sonar and rid myself of the filth that Pro Tools is?  Thanks in advance!  Mitch 

You just do it where it sites. Not like Pro audio where the wav window opened up. 

what Cake version are you using might help/

Sonar 8 Producer Edition...

Im just in need of a tutorial vid somewhere on the web OR someone to chuck me a little guide on how to achieve similar editing to Pro Tools where you cut sections of the audio and drag and highlight certain parts ect.

It's my one and only negative with Sonar is that it is not a true wave editor (like you can do in Cubase). The work around is to use "Tool" menu and if your have Wave Lab, Audacity or Sound forge installed they will show on the tool list. 
You highlight the track , go to tools, click on Wave Lab, and the track will open in the other software for proper , easy editing. 
When finished Save in wave lab and return to Sonar which will ask if you wish to save the changes made click "yes" 
I find this works for 80% of my work, but the 20% that it doesn't then involves a big PITA. 

By this, i mean for example i could just record a track, click and drag over it and pretty much delete parts of it, snip it, cut it, edit the .wav and pre roll over it, but with Sonar i cannot find a way to do this,

Maybe I'm missing something but, that's pretty easy using key modifiers (cntrl, alt) along with the mouse. 
"S" will split. 


However, then you say "edit the wav". That could be a multitude of things I guess. 
Do you have a link to whatever it is you want to do that is done in another program.
I must be missing something and I don't like to miss things:)

Sonar doesn't have a wave editor

Sonar doesn't have a wave editor

Really? What do you mean by that? I sure do a lot of editing of waveforms on tracks: copy, cut, paste, move, overlay, slide, reverse, add effects, eq, pitch correct, groove clip, etc... 

It lacks the ability to manipulate individual parts of a waveform, drawing in your own edits etc.

Dave if you have ever used a REAL wave editor you would know what we are referring to. 

If you have ever tried Cubase you will see. 

You double click the track and the editor opens. Most of the tools are also under a right click. You can open plug ins like say an EQ  and they remain open until you close them. You apply the process by simply  highlighting parts. There are dozens of keyboard short cuts to navigate the track. The plug in remains open and the setting static. 
With Sonar you use it once and it's gone. You have to repeat the menu process and reset the EQ settings each time,,, very slow.  

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Cactus. Sorry for being stupid. But, I don't know what you're talking about. You can split a wav into a clip in Sonar and you can add a non-destructive EQ that remains open until you close it.

I hear complaints about no audio editor often. And, i think it is mostly about pencil tooling something. I just don't get what that is about. Never understood what more you could do with a wav that would sound natural.

I know i must be missing something. Please educate me...
I do like to tweak:)    ......... (unfortunately)