• SONAR
  • X2 MIDI Synth Problem - Need help
2012/10/11 22:00:43
trinitystudio
When I insert a soft synth, Session Drummer 3 for example, I load a set and click on the instruments and hear the sound. Same for the Bass and String synths. NOW when I sent the MIDI track to that synth and hit play no sound...now even clicking on the instruments that made a sound before I hit play will no longer make a sound. You can see the drum move but no sound. Help anyone?
 
BTW I'm an audio expert but MIDI novice so step by step please.
2012/10/11 22:17:08
robert_e_bone
Hang tight for a couple of minutes - watching the end of the debate here - I will put together a list of things to do and to look at.

Bob Bone
2012/10/11 22:23:53
trinitystudio
NEW DISCOVERY. If While the MIDI is playing I change the kit, it starts playing. One the song is stopped and started again...no audio on the synth track.
2012/10/11 22:42:45
robert_e_bone
I am a bit unsure as to exactly how you have the tracks set up - can you give me a little more info?

I would like to know what tracks you have set up for this situation.

Did you set it up as a simple instrument track (audio and midi merged into a single track)?

If you have a separate midi track 'pointing' to the synth, are you meaning that the output selection for the midi track is set to drive the SD3 module?

Is there a separate audio track set up?  If so, what do you have specified for Input for that track?  (Should be SD3 - Primary Output:Stereo)

You indicate you hit play but there is no sound - what is trying to play?  Is there midi data that is recorded on the SD3 midi track?

Do you have the 'Focus' on the midi track for SD3?  Sonar will only produce sound for a synth if a midi track associated with that synth has Focus (meaning you have that track selected).

Please respond, so that I know how to explain things to you.

Thanks, 

Bob Bone



2012/10/11 23:11:19
trinitystudio
robert_e_bone


I am a bit unsure as to exactly how you have the tracks set up - can you give me a little more info?

I would like to know what tracks you have set up for this situation.

Did you set it up as a simple instrument track (audio and midi merged into a single track)?
 
Yes - sinple

If you have a separate midi track 'pointing' to the synth, are you meaning that the output selection for the midi track is set to drive the SD3 module?
 
Yes it is a simple 6 track song. Bass Violin Cello Drums Piano Guitar

Is there a separate audio track set up?  If so, what do you have specified for Input for that track?  (Should be SD3 - Primary Output:Stereo)
The only audio track are the ones created by the synth. BTW I just tried the Cakewalk TT1 that I am using on the other tracks and it will play the drums.
You indicate you hit play but there is no sound - what is trying to play?  Is there midi data that is recorded on the SD3 midi track?
This was a client supplied GM MIDI file that opened into the 6 individual tracks.
Do you have the 'Focus' on the midi track for SD3?  Sonar will only produce sound for a synth if a midi track associated with that synth has Focus (meaning you have that track selected).
 
Not sure I understand that. I have had bith the audio and MIDI tracks for the drums highlighted at one time or another.
 
Thanks for the help..

Please respond, so that I know how to explain things to you.

Thanks, 

Bob Bone


2012/10/11 23:24:24
chuckebaby
ive found session drummer to be a bit finicky at best when setting up.
sometimes it goes stright in and plays sound,sometimes i get no sound.
but there are things to make sure you have no problems almost everytime.
make sure your synth is plugged in and showing up in preferences.
make sure you pick a kit,though its default is to load one,sometimes it can be strange.
hit the midi engine reset button in the transport module.

mostly,just click play.
i find sometimes if i just click play it resets the engine and works right away.

other then that its always an I/O issue where something isnt routed correctly.
2012/10/11 23:31:35
robert_e_bone
I PROMISE I will respond to this in detail - I just have to take a little nap - been up since 3 this morning.

I think in about an hour I will lay this all out for you.

Thanks for your patience, 

Bob Bone
2012/10/11 23:35:56
trinitystudio
Thanks. This happens with all the SI plugins - piano, bass and strings as well as the Truepiano and CakeWalkSoundCenter. The only synth that seems to work all the time is TT1.
This is playing a pre-recorded sequence. There are no instruments hooked up to the MIDIman module. 
2012/10/11 23:37:50
trinitystudio
NO hurry Bob. I won't get back to this project till tomorrow.
 
2012/10/12 02:58:14
robert_e_bone
OK - I like the no hurry thing - I'm still sleepy, but DID wake up because I promised to.

I'll go back to sleep then and respond in the morning.

I posted a rather lengthy set of steps the other day for a midi newcomer and he followed those steps and got everything working right - I will dig that up and post it here for you to try out - just to get a valid working midi sound output to your master bus.  From there we can see what's up with your project.

So, I am zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Bob Bone

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