PSP vs. Voxengo's Warmifier?

I'm considering purchasing either the PSP Vintage Warmer DX or Voxengo's Warmifier to warm up my digital recordings in Sonar. Any thoughts on which of these works better? Also anybody using Voxengo's Analogflux suite?

Thanks.

ORIGINAL: Kooz

Also anybody using Voxengo's Analogflux suite?

Thanks.

Hi. I have just started working with the "TapeBus" plugin from the Analogflux suite and my initial impressions are that it ads a subtle coloration to the audio track (the master bus is what I have tried it on for the most part) you have it strapped on. Sure, you can go balls-to-the-walls with it, but it sounds best to me when used as a light spice rather than a hotsauce, so to speak. Again, I have not worked with it too much, but I can tell you that the Voxengo folks are top notch and offer great support for their plugins!!

-mr moon

My immediate thought would be - what do you mean by warm up?

if you mean add distortion/harmonics then try both of those plugs and see which is best - but if you mean clarity/depth/better sound then you should look at your converters first.

Kind regards

Dave Rich

There are demo versions available for both products. Why not just try them and decide for yourself which you like best?

Warmifier Demo
Vintage Warmer Demo

It's a matter of taste as to wich plugin is better, i prefer the voxengo sound, but psp vintage warmer is loved by many aswell.I will say this however, the psp vintage warmer costs $150. For $150 you can email voxengo for a custome bundle and probably come out with 3 plugins such as warmifier, lampthruster,and crunchessor. You may also want to demo voxengo's analog flux especially the tapebus that comes with this bundle. Voxengo's will give you more bang for your bucks but it also boils down to wich sounds best to you. demo until your heart is content!

I haven't tried the Voxengo plug, but I love... LOVE their other products.

Conversely, I use VintageWarmer on everything. EVERYTHING. In subtle degrees on vocals, slightly more intensely on drums, and sometimes a slight bit across the whole mix to help bring it together. You won't be disappointed in it I believe.

I reckon either way you'll be alright, but please share experience with the Voxengo plug should you demo it.

I almost always use the voxengo tapebus and the psp vintage warmer. They are both really nice in moderation and a combination of those two covers most of your bases. I've tried the warmifier but I don't really like it personally, it never seems to wrap itself around my sounds as naturally as the other two.

I got Kjaerhus Golden Peak-Pressor (GPP-1) and Voxengo Crunchessor bundled in a group buy a while back. (How cool was that!! ) GPP-1 is a contender in this catagory, too. Well, at least it's a really nice soft limiter.

They are different. I have both. My story:

Warmifier -- bought this first. Like the sound. It has a unique signature, and can sound good.

Vintage Warmer -- after demoing this, I bought this and haven't used warmifier since.

It boils down to taste -- but I love the vintage warmer. It just adds a nice sound to many different types of material. I'm a huge fan of Voxengo, and you can't really go wrong with either. Other posts here will show that you just need to try them both.

Hi Kooz.

First of all - the word "warm" is violently abused in the plug-in field. The sonic effect of "warming" is rooted in a lot of things and if a plugin claim to warm things it is just altering the sonic balance (basically eq:ing) and in some cases add harmonic overtones.

So, the word "warm" should really not be used at all, it's only a hoax from the beginning of audible life.

The products you mention are of different spices. If you use them in a veeerrry good monitoring environment (speakers and D/A) you will most likely find out that what they create should be used very gently. If your monitoring chain is lo-fi it is VERY easy to tempt yourself into creating something that does not sound cool at all.

The PSP does have a more mid frequency tilted approach. It creates quite a lot of grain and have a bit of analogue spice to it (much depending on that the lows and high is somewhat compressed). It is very easy to over-use it but it is also much harder to decide when the limit has been passed.

The warmifier is of another kind. It is very subtle and behaves more like good analogue valve gear. Even in a rather poor monitor environment you will hear when you have passed any limits with the warmifier, because it start to behave a bit nasty. So the effect of the warmifier is much more subtle than the PSP, but on the other hand it is much more nice to the over all frequency spectrum.

The PSP has got better dynamic controls and you can basically use it as a compressor, multiband compressor and even as a mastering limiter. The warmifier has not any of these adjustable parameters.

The warmifier on the other hand can alter the harmonic contents behaviour more than the PSP does.

The PSP has got a transformer-sound and the warmifier has got more of a valve-sound.

My monitoring chain is a Lavry Blue D/A into a pair of PMC TB2S speakers. Fairly good and very neutral. When my monitoring set up was more lo-fi I went a lot for the PSP. When I now hear a lot of what the plugs actually do to clean audio, I have to say that the warmifier is much more gentle and do less harm than the PSP do. Since I upgraded my converters ans speakers, none of these plugs are in my mixes any more (if that indicates something to you).

Eventhough things might sound cool I think it is important to consider what they trash as well. Especially if you managed to record something that has really great sonics from the start. You should always remember that neither of these plugs will make your basic audio sound better. They'll both alter the sonics in some degree and your ears might like it. But neither won't ever make the basic audio sound better since you will add an additional DSP calculation to the basic sound.

So to summarize: Use the PSP for grains, use the warmifier for cleans but first work your ass off with the basic mix and make the 200-400 + 2000-3500 Hz region sound separated and clean and then ask yourself if the mix really need any additional warmth. The better mix you have without these plugs, the more dissapointed you will be when you insert them somewhere in your mix.

I do not know if ths was to any worth at all, but look out for the word "warm" when it comes to digital audio.