2016/03/26 16:51:48
craigb
Waves comes with restoration plugins to remove all of the issues that come with vinyl, and now people want the opposite - go figure!
2016/03/27 11:22:51
Moshkito
craigb
Waves comes with restoration plugins to remove all of the issues that come with vinyl, and now people want the opposite - go figure!



No kidding ... but the whole vinyl thing is such a crazy commercial ploy it's not funny ... and seeing Fry's try to pull this off, specially with a cheapie turntable, was one of the saddest and most disgusting things I ever saw ... the quality through that turntable, would likely be slightly better than the worst mp3 you ever saw or recorded.
 

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Listening has changed.  Best Buy and former Circuit City use to have rooms dedicated to speakers. You know longer see the surround speaker packages now replaced by soundbars.
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I still have, proudly, the ESS Heil AMT1 pair, which I have had coned twice already in its 37 years. I'm wanting to take it to the place here in Portland to get the wires changed to clean it up ... some of the wiring in it is starting to get brittle and feeling like one touch and it will break. I also want to find better clips for the bottom to get these to hook up better and stronger.
 
Sound wise? I can blast any neighbors easily enough! Let them rap and pound, and I will teach them a lesson!
2016/03/27 18:49:07
craigb
For your speaker repair, I've taken several things to All Service Musical Electronics Repair on Morrison (near the 5) and been very happy with their work.
2016/03/28 12:12:15
bitflipper
Some interesting tidbits in that article...
 
DJs make up a significant portion of the audiophiles who will willingly pay a premium for WAVs or FLACs that sound much better than MP3s during their sets. 
 
This, I did not know.
 
Today, you can 3D-print records that play on normal turntables...
 
Hadn't even thought of that! Sure, they're still primitive, have a fraction of vinyl's capacity and sound really awful. Still, this is technologically version 0.1b, but still sounds better than the first wax cylinders.
Check it out:

2016/03/28 12:16:44
craigb
I need to find a 3D printer that will make gold for me.
(Unfortunately, it will probably want gold resin to start with...)
2016/03/28 14:53:39
Moshkito
craigb
For your speaker repair, I've taken several things to All Service Musical Electronics Repair on Morrison (near the 5) and been very happy with their work.




JaMac on 82nd ... he coned it 30 years ago, and then did it again 3 or 4 years ago. I was thinking about adding a mid-range to the speaker ... and he says ... you're crazy ... don't need it!
2016/04/05 06:32:04
soens
bitflipper
Today, you can 3D-print records that play on normal turntables...
 
Sure, they're still primitive, have a fraction of vinyl's capacity and sound really awful. Still, this is technologically version 0.1b, but still sounds better than the first wax cylinders.



Can hardly wait for a 3D printed CD.
2016/04/05 07:35:45
ston
I honestly don't understand people who think that dragging a weighted rock across lumpy plastic is in any way 'high fidelity'.  Mind you, these same people probably buy cables from AudioQuest.
 
The bass cut filter applied to the audio before cutting the record is mahoosive and needs to be perfectly reversed on reproduction; chances of that happening must be zero.  Without this massive bass frequency cut the needle would literally leap off the record, much akin to a salmon swimming upstream, but with less chance of being eaten by a bear.
2016/04/05 11:40:49
Moshkito
ston
I honestly don't understand people who think that dragging a weighted rock across lumpy plastic is in any way 'high fidelity'.  Mind you, these same people probably buy cables from AudioQuest.
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Trust me ... bring in your cheapie FRY's turntable to my setup and I will show you the difference, after I play you on my biggie turntable.
 
It's probably the stylus and its quality that is the biggest difference, but if the wiring inside does not have it, and it simplifies, then I don't think that the quality can be there at all. Again, you have to hear it to believe it, but this is not discernible on the digital stuff as it was in the actual turntables back in the day.
 
I had to play a Rolling Stones album to show some folks the difference fro what they were used to listen to it. Massive quality difference in the ear when listening to it. Even cheap speakers hurt the quality, compared to speakers that can separate properly. 
 
The biggest thing in some of the mp3's and stuff, is that a lot of these are being simplified into one track, that kinda equates to "mono" in my ears ... instead of a clean, clear and totally beautiful stereo. And you really do not know/understand stereo until you hear a Tangerine Dream in these things, or Sgt Peppers, or Dark Side of the Moon in these environments.
2016/04/05 12:25:25
drewfx1
In addition to other issues, vinyl severely limits bass frequency response and stereo separation. It's the nature of the beast and the fact that some vinyl playback systems may be less bad than others does not change this.
 
And if one doesn't really understand stereo (or audio) in a technical sense and is basing their "knowledge" on uncontrolled listening and mythological nonsense that doesn't even survive the most cursory of objective tests, well then they will only end up embarrassing themselves.
 
And if someone wants to imagine something "clean, clear and totally beautiful", why imagine it with stuff that fails miserably in every respect under proper testing when one can "hear" the same imaginary stuff if one wants using gear technology that doesn't suck even in its best incarnations?
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