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  • X2 demo song won't play.
2012/10/12 18:20:23
Barczar
 
 
My interface is set to 48 and the demo song is 44.1. Could this be the problem?  I would really like to hear this.
2012/10/12 18:35:30
Bristol_Jonesey
Well change the Sample Rate!!





You should also be able to do File > Import > Audio and Sonar will automatically convert it for you, but this would only apply for a single track, not a whole project
2012/10/12 18:39:14
Barczar
Hey Bristol, I tried that. I keep getting the error message unable to open recording device.
2012/10/12 19:23:43
rcrees

Sorry to Hijack this thread...

Jonesey.... is that really a screen cap from your system? Your Focusrite USB card latency is set to 1.0 msecs??? 45 samples??  I have a new Focusrite 2i2 and can't get under 10 msecs... what am I doing wrong? I mean, 10's ok, but...

Best,
Rob
2012/10/12 20:06:55
StarTekh
rcrees: in the m-audio control panel how many samples are you set to >?
2012/10/12 23:32:11
rcrees
StarTekh


rcrees: in the m-audio control panel how many samples are you set to >?

My sound card is the Focusrite 2i2.  The M-Audio Keystation is my keyboard/controller. I went on to my machine and found that, actually, my latency is set to 4.0 msec not 10.0... sorry. 


Under Mixing Latency

Asio reported latency... at a sample rate of 44.1


Buffer Size: 4.0 msec (177 samples)
Input: 11.2 msec (492 samples)
Output: 15.2 msec (669 samples)
Total Round trip as 26.3 msec or 1161 samples

This is ok for me, but when I tried to go lower, I got rice krispies... 

Barczar... again, sorry for hijacking your thread. Did Bristol Jonseys' suggestion help you?

Rob


2012/10/12 23:49:26
robert_e_bone
Please detail the exact error message when you try to open the interface to change it.

Thanks,

Bob Bone

2012/10/13 02:25:42
Bristol_Jonesey
rcrees


Sorry to Hijack this thread...

Jonesey.... is that really a screen cap from your system? Your Focusrite USB card latency is set to 1.0 msecs??? 45 samples??  I have a new Focusrite 2i2 and can't get under 10 msecs... what am I doing wrong? I mean, 10's ok, but...

Best,
Rob

Hi Rob.


That's just my buffer latency - the true RTL is in the ASIO panel below and reports 7.9msec
2012/10/13 06:41:15
robert_e_bone
I did some digging in Google for your interface and found some things to check.

1.  Please go to device manager and look at the properties for your Focusrite interface.  I want to know PRECISELY what it is using for drivers.  Please respond with that info.  Apparently, Windows may install ITS drivers for this, which are useless.  Just something to rule out quickly.  If the right drivers aren't installed, just manually install the correct ones for your interface.  The Focusrite doc online says there is a Windows driver update that was released on 02/02/2012.

2.  For my Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL interface, it most DEFINITELY has to have matching sample rates between the interface and Sonar, or no sound comes out.  I would imagine this may be the issue for you.

3.  Your interface may be built for USB 1.1 ports (the doc online says it is for USB 1.1, but their driver text indicates it is for USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 devices, so I don't really know).  Be careful what you are plugging it in to on your computer.  My Presonus interface FREAKED when I plugged it into a USB 3.0 port.  There are also additional factors when using Intel i3, i5, or i7 chips.  Here is some documentation from the Focusrite systems requirements page on the web:


         
Connectivity of USB 1.1 devices on non-root hubs
We have found some problems with USB 1.1 devices attached to non-root USB hubs on Windows 7. The cause appears to be a problem in the way Windows handles non-root USB hubs. 

Some of the symptoms of this problem are listed below:
- Interface fails to stream audio at low buffer sizes (below 3ms).
- Device fails to connect when other USB 1.1 devices are in use and connected to the same non-root hub.
- It's not possible to use other USB 1.1 devices when the 6 USB is connected
- Device shows in device manager (under 'Sound, Video and Game Controllers') but doesn't appear in Windows' sound preferences. 
- Streaming of Windows sounds is possible but the Focusrite USB ASIO driver gives an error message when selected.

Whether a device is connected directly to a USB root hub or Generic USB hub can be found in the Device Manager, found in the Control Panel. You should then choose the option 'Devices by connection' in the 'View' menu.

If it is correctly connected to a USB root hub it will appear like this:



If it is incorrectly connected to a generic USB hub it will appear like this:



The problem is particularly prevalent on the new Intel i-series chipsets (Core i3, i5 and i7), both in desktop and notebook format, as these chipsets do not provide a way to connect directly to the root hub.

The workaround is to attach a new USB root hub and connect the device to that instead. 

Desktop users can add a PCI or PCIe USB card, which will work as long as the card does not have an internal, non-root hub.     





4.  I also found online postings of folks having generic Windows trouble where the 'unable to open recording device' message appears.  You might want to just cruise through some Google results searching for that message text, and see if any of that may apply.

I don't for the moment know what else to suggest.

Please respond after reviewing the above and seeing if anything there rings a bell (even if you can't hear the bell ringing because no sound comes out of the interface - sorry, couldn't resist that).

Bob Bone
2012/10/13 20:30:13
Barczar


Hey Robert. Tried to get back to you sooner, but I was at work for twelve hours and for some reason I can't post to the forum from work anymore.  I followed your instructions and it is off the correct usb hub.

   The error message reads:     Unable to open audio record device. The device may not support the current projects audio format or may be in use.

  Thanks for the suggestions and the help.
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