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  • How do you route midi to a vst? (p.2)
2012/10/13 02:11:29
ducatibruce2
My memory (often fallible) tells me you can't route a midi track to an audio effect, only to a VST instrument... Maybe someone else can confirm/deny
2012/10/13 02:16:49
FastBikerBoy
 I assumed the OP was referring to VSTi not an effect.... oh well.
2012/10/13 04:18:24
robert_e_bone
Something in this triggered a neuron in what's left of my right brain, and I went to Google for an example.

I  am pasting in some text that talks about essentially configuring your AUDIO effect plug-in as a SYNTH, but still using it as an effect. (Sounds like it's against the laws of nature, but anyways, here is what I found - maybe this will help you with what you are trying to do):

" Some audio effects plug-ins respond to MIDI in one way or another, such as BIAS PitchCraft EZ responding to MIDI notes for setting pitch. Installing as a standard audio plug-in doesn’t expose the MIDI inputs, but there is a workaround: tell Sonar it’s a virtual instrument.



1. Go to Tools / Cakewalk Plug-in Manager.
2. Under Plug-in Categories, select ‘VST Audio Effects’.
3. Click on the plug-in in the Registered Plug-ins column.
4. Click on ‘Plug-in Properties’.
5. In the Properties window, tick ‘Configure as synth’.
6. Click ‘OK’.
7. The list of plug-ins should refresh and you’ll be able to find the plug-in under the VST Instruments plug-in category. However, as it’s a processor, don’t use the Insert / Soft Synths method to add it to a track. Instead, right-click in the Effects bin and select the processor from the Soft Synths choices. You can then create a MIDI track and select the signal processor as the track’s MIDI output.


A similar trick works for effects that respond to tempo. If the effect doesn’t respond to tempo of its own accord, follow the same steps as before but, in step five, tick ‘Configure As Tempo-Based Effect’. "
On a different site - they advise also re-scanning your plugins after you do the above.

I hope the above helps you, 


Bob Bone


2012/10/13 05:16:32
twaddle
Not having heard of Kerovee  I googled it and the only thing I could find was a vst effect similar to autotune.
If that's what your using then I'm thinking your confusing it with a vst instrument. Most of the replies here seem to be assuming it's an instrument or synth of some sort ?



With effect you should normally be able to use an envelope to control it's parameters. 
On the track where you have kerovee loaded, click on "Clips"  click on "Automation" and at the bottom of the next list you will see Kerovee listed. move your mouse over that and you'll get a full list of parameters for which you can assign
envelopes.


Steve




2012/10/13 08:57:08
maximumpower
First off, you guys are awesome!

Karl, I have an audio effect that autotunes audio but it says it can be controlled through midi. So it need to be on an audio track to do its thing. But somehow I need to route midi to it.

Bob, I did a search before posting but I did not see the article you posted. I did all the steps but the last one "right-click in the Effects bin and select the processor from the Soft Synths choices" didn't work for me. I couldn't see kerovee as a choice. Also, if this did work, then kerovee would not be an audio effect, which it needs to be for this to work. I think?


twaddle, I think this might be it but I still could not get it to work. I can add kerovee as an audio effect, I can select kerovee under automation and automate midi but still midi was not controlling the pitch. I tried setting my keyboard to each midi channel but still no go.


Everyone, I really appreciate all your help! I thought this was going to be easy and I just wanted to try this out to see if it works. If it doesn't, that is OK, so please don't spend more time trying to help me. I really just thought this was a common and simple thing to do. It is not worth much of all your time. But really, I do appreciate how much you have helped me so far!
2012/10/13 09:04:32
robert_e_bone
Here is the link to what I found using Google:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun10/articles/sonarnotes_0610.htm

I just felt my brain deflate, so I am heading back to bed for a recharge.

Bob Bone
2012/10/13 14:33:31
swamptooth
hey maximumpower check out this thread it should help...
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=2689818&mpage=1#2690564
2012/10/13 14:37:35
robert_e_bone
Thanks, Swamptooth - my brain ran out my ears hours ago - I just spent like 3 hours chatting with a guy from Japan on debugging his Presonus interface.

I sure appreciate the extra help in trying to get this issue resolved.

Bob Bone



2012/10/13 17:13:56
maximumpower
WOW! Thanks!

I got further. I read all the posts in that thread and read the blog.

I can automate any of the controls from my keyboard. However, I can't make the pitch of the autotuner to follow which key I play. Perhaps, that is can't be done. It just seemed like that is what one would want. That is, have the autotune pitch follow the midi note. I can turn things on and off by playing a note. I can control the transpose knob using a controller but I can't control the transpose knob or pitch by playing different notes.

That thread got me a whole lot closer though. Thanks!!!
2012/10/13 17:46:34
swamptooth
make sure the green midi light is on set to mono at first and deselect the scale button.  on the midi track that's sending info to kerovee is where you put the notes. if you watch the audio scroll you'll see lines come in when the notes are triggered - that's the note the pitch is being corrected to. :D
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