Any way I could get some help on getting the Waves Platinum Native Bundle of Plug-ins to work inside of Sonar 8.5?  Any help would be appreciated.
 
I am one of the unfortunate people who actually got suckered into paying the $1800 for the Waves Platinum Native bundle of plug-ins (along with the $170 per year for support), thinking that they must be that much better.  Well, they are pretty good, but not that much better than the free Plug-ins offered by Cakewalk, Sony and a couple other publishers. 
 
Well, apparently Waves did not put my $170 annual support fees to use and just took the money.  They are really upset about all the pirating of their goodies, so they take it out on the paid iLok Users like me by charging high prices and providing below market support for the products - other than new methods of copy protection.  If they wanted to be a copy and security company, then they should have just gone and done that and left the sound processing to the musicians. 
 
Regardless, they were not able to pull off what the FREE plug-ins do, and that is to actually work with Sonar 8.5.  The Plug-in Manager for Sonar 8.5 (and maybe earlier versions) cannot locate the Waves Shells .dll file in the Plug-in folder.  None of the Waves Plug-ins work consequently with Sonar 8.5
 
Now I have read the forums, in part and...
 
1.  The Options/Global X-ray On and Off change does not fix this.
2.  Rescanning the Plug-ins does not fix this.
3.  De-installing Internet Explorer 8 does not fix this.
4.  Closing the Plug-in GUI Box and then reopening the same Plug-in does not make them work.
5.  I have a DELL x7, but the Waves Platinum Plug-ins work fine with SoundForge 9.0 so it is not an i-thread processor 45nm processor issue.
6.  I have the latest Waves V6 Platinum 6.0.7 Bundle update.
 
For those who want to go down those roads, thanks for the help, but these things do not fix this. 
 
So, my long winded diatribe on requesting help so that I do not feel that I threw $2,100 out the window with Waves....
 
TS

I'm sorry that it doesn't work for you! =)
 
I don't know, I don't use Waves in my studio, nerver liked Waves and still not in 64bit either so... there so many other 3part manufacturies that are so much better then WAVES. WAVES are just a $$$$ overpriced dinosaur, that release old XP32bit plugs.
Many seem to get fooled on it too, like Pro Tools? Higher price =better product! I bet if SONAR 8.5.1 had cost $20000, all people at Gearslutz had finally agreed that it is the best DAW on the Market! I mean, you see that on the price tag, right!
 
 
Here is some other 3 part manufacturies, that runover Waves, and back it up, and runover twice:
Voxengo *64bit, Wavearts *64bit, UAD *64bit, Nomad Factory (BlueTube-series, they say it work inside 8.5.1 now?) just to mention few.

Need more info... XP or Vista?  32 or 64 bit?

I don't know about S8 32 bit but if ur on 64 bit S8 needs the Shell Vst  application now at Vs 2.0  to run Waves plugs.

There is a utility out there that extracts shelled plug-ins from the shell and puts nice individual .dlls in your vst folder for each plug in the shell.

I found it in a thread here about waves ssl stuff not showing the gui when turning off x-ray did not help.

It worked a treat, but I can't find it right now for you and I need to get ready for work.

Here it is!


http://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/shell2vst.zip

Thaaaat's the one! Shell VST 2.0

Thanks Bitman and Audiomax!  And yeah, I am gonna check out the 3rd Party manufacturers and phase Waves out over the next year until my subscription expires.

All you guys (gals?) are  the BEST!!  I will let the board know if the VST 2.0 extraction works.

A big lesson there...   always check to see the rap on products when they seem either too good to be true, or WAY overpriced.  There is always a counter story somewhere.  

TS

Hey gents, pardon my upset over this $2,300 WAVES ripoff...  (Oh, and there 'are no refunds')

Sadly, I downloaded the Shell VST 2.0 program and it does not recognize the Waves Shells-VST 6.0.7 nor does it recongnize the .dll standard which Waves has apparently used with their new release.  Neither does Sonar.

I do not think that it is Sonar 8.5 becuase every other   VST.dll file I have which worked with earlier verison of Sonar, all work fine with S 8.5

I even copied the .dll files out of the Waves VST directory and pasted them into the working .dll directory where all my FUNCTIONAL and CHEAPER VST Plug-ins are doing FINE.  And the cheap plug-ins pulled off compatibility with Sonar - without having to charge $170 a year in support fees.

Waves retorts that they "have not tested Waves products with Windows Vista Home."  Geez, how long has Vista been out now????  5 years??  Windows 7.0 comes out in 30 days.  This is HORRIBLE ethics.

Well save the money on testing Waves, the users have already done it for you, at much greater expense than you would have ...and here is the conclusion:

WAVE DOES NOT WORK WITH SONAR 8 IN VISTA..

But I tell you what WAVES..............

1)  Your complex iLok security sure darm well works....
2)  Your credit card charge function sure darm well works
3)  Your, "make sure they have paid before they get tech support," function works great...
4)  The overly complex download and upackage V6 Whizzamabang downloader sure works.....
5)  The promotional pushes to BUY BUY BUY on your website....to UPGRADE...before you hear anything about how to actually use the software....all that stuff works...

All of that is MUCH more complicated than managing a tiny .dll file for Sonar. 

But you just were not too interested in actually getting the product to work.  That small task which all the Freeware companies managed to pull off just fine.......it was just too daunting a challenge for everyone there at WAVES???.....did not light any fires of interest - actually making the product work?????

I guess $2,300  was just not enough.   Not enough to get you out of the chair to actually TEST the main thing you were SUPPOSED to be doing in the first place...

 

I don't know anyone who paid for Waves LOL until now.......There is nothing waves does that can be found for far less money, They are the "Pro Tools" of the efx market.