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  • "Walked Away", hard rocker with swagger (p.3)
2014/05/17 09:31:06
evadianepug
Yeah, wierd.  It could be me but I don't think so.  I'll do them again and see if I was imagining things.  Been known to happen.!
2014/05/17 09:40:14
evadianepug
Ok, I listened to 10 seconds at a time one then the other and the further I got into the song the more they sounded the same.  I thought that the CD cut was a bit brighter but am not sure now.  What happened, though, is that I realized you play the heck out of the bass!   Of course the what could one expect considering how you play that guit fiddle.  I now have this song running through my head.  Talk to you later.
2014/05/19 10:27:50
batsbrew
lynn
thanks for the critique...
maybe the hard LCR on guitars this dry,
is too extreme.
maybe if i brought them in a bit, in general, i can still get the separation i want...
but have them not sit where my overheads are.
or vice versa, seems i had both my overheads and the rhythm guitars both hard panned.
that's a good experiment....


warren-
well, in retrospect, it DOES make sense, because the files i sent you were high res mp3's, and the cd is of course straight uncompressed wave!
my duh... 
well, the cd should be a bit brighter, or at least 'less blurred' than the mp3 version.
the bass on this song......
has one of my favorite bass tracks on it.
it swings.
thanks a lot for listening... again.
2014/05/25 13:57:03
polarbear
someone up above was also listening on HD380Pro headphones like I am and I agree with what he said. A little more low end would be great. But otherwise this is awesome. Tons of swagger :-)
2014/05/26 12:17:16
batsbrew
thanks polarbear.....
for listening and commenting.
 
 
the idea of enough low end for typical home speaker listening..
and have it work well for headphones, is part of the experiment for me....
 
i can say, that even on MOST of my pro releases i own, the translation of low end between my infinitys, krk's and different pairs of headphones is all over the map.
 
eventually, i'll find the right tweaks that translate over everything.
 
 
a good M.E. could probably solve the problem/improve the mix right away for that purpose..
but i'm trying to learn to do it at a mix level.
 
2014/05/26 21:08:57
Rimshot
Hey bat, 
Great playing, arranging, mixing, and production.  You rock.  Since you asked about mix, frequency, etc., I felt the bottom was OK but the upper mids and highs are shy.  I compared to this Yes song and A/B'd them.  Check out around 4:53 or so.  Even though you are hitting harder and your guitars are fuller, check out the dynamic range from this Yes song and compare to yours and maybe something will become apparent.    
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCXEsysLfDQ
 
Not that everyone wants to be compared to a superstar group buy to me you are a star.  The technical aspects of mixing and production is so subjective.  That is why I am pointing out what sounds good on my system so that my comments might be helpful if you compare as well. 
 
You really kick it up bat.  Keep on rockin'.
 
Rimshot
 
 
2014/05/28 16:25:08
batsbrew
rimshot
thanks man, i appreciate the study on this one...
siberian khatru, been listening to that since it first came out!!
(dating myself here.....) 
i think that more than the high end being shy (see the attached freq response graph) i think the low end is too much...
that said, i think the yes mix is too bright across the entire spectrum, tho it DOES make it super clear.
remember, this yes mix, was mastered for vinyl playback...
and you could not boost the low end like today's modern low end mixes look on graph/sound in playback...
walked away frequency curve

2014/05/30 13:57:56
Starise
Great job on this Bat. I thought the bass was good at my end. Your playing is some of the best I've heard. Combine that with the great recording and you have the whole package! 
2014/05/31 15:19:22
Purple Rhapsody
Listened to this a few times over the last week on PC speakers and finally remembered to have my cans handy (4 year old Bose ones, don't know the model number).
 
Firstly - the song is awesome whichever way I listen to it. Mix is fantastic.
 
And secondly, it sounded fantastic to my old ears on cans - everything sounded crystal clear, I was able to focus in on each of the many layers you put in there at will and the overall sound was solid and professional.
 
Cheers,
Terry.
2014/06/01 23:52:35
Old55
Great work, Batsbrew.  
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