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  • So what X2 features should I write about first for my Sonar column in Sound on Sound? (p.3)
2012/10/10 07:06:15
Mystic38
Shinyhead


 I really believe that what really needs coverage and exposure is the ABYSSIMAL state of the Staff View. This is a supposed to be a cornerstone to a serious DAW but it has been left to rot for more than a dozen upgrades. Look at this Cubase video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqDK2Rhpb3g) that features a few apsects of their Notation offering and TRY not to feel embarrassed and/or envious...

Maybe if this gets "outside" big league coverage, it would light a fire under their buttocks, maybe add a good dose of well deserved embarrassment. Always hard to read the marketing blurbs that want us to believe that they offer a PRO solution. They don't! Professional musicians read, use, write, edit, arrange with NOTATION.

PS might be a risk to add this to your column as it would probably put you in their bad books...

Cakewalk refusal to even comment the myriads of posts on the Forum, calls to support, ect... only adds to the injury. At the very minimum being exposed on SOS might have CW offer the forum an official comment on future plans or tell us square that they will never address it.

while i have no axe to grind on staff view i will confess that I have had eye opening experiences by looking at videos of other daw when confronted by frustrations in workflow, such as automation on a multi-channel vst, and so while x2 certainly is an improvement there is a long way to go in several areas..  and while i dont particularly like dumping competitors names into every thread for comparison, it does behoove us all to be aware of the relative quality of workflow in Sonar not just against itself (x1>x2) but also against the competition... as is the case for staff view, such is the case for automation.
 
2012/10/10 07:11:57
jimkleban
I agree, after a few weeks the biggest positive features in X2 are the workflow changes.....

Second area appears to be more included VST and VSTi's.  And let's not forget the channel mixer configuration.

And, this has to be most stable major version release from the BAKERS in a long time.

Jim
2012/10/10 08:48:22
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Hi Craig,

My vote as a nice topic for an X2 power user column would be exploring the quick grouping features available.  Quick grouping has been enhanced quite a bit in X2 with several new operations available and there are a ton of things that you can do to simplify common tasks that users have not discovered.  
If you are doing PC FXChains you can even touch on this topic there - every control in PC effects chains is quick groupable so you can affect multiple effects chains by simply selecting tracks/buses and moving controls.

2012/10/10 08:59:30
STinGA
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
]

Hi Craig,

My vote as a nice topic for an X2 power user column would be exploring the quick grouping features available.  Quick grouping has been enhanced quite a bit in X2 with several new operations available and there are a ton of things that you can do to simplify common tasks that users have not discovered.  
If you are doing PC FXChains you can even touch on this topic there - every control in PC effects chains is quick groupable so you can affect multiple effects chains by simply selecting tracks/buses and moving controls.

Noel one i've found that can't be quick grouped and bugs me a little.  I use colour Icons for my tracks.  For instance I use the purple colour for all my drums. I have to go into each individual icon to change its colour to purple.  It would be a whole lot easier if I could quick group them then hit purple!


Not a biggie at all but something I wish I could do, tell me I'm right and I'll submit a feature request. :-)


PS sorry for the off topic comment.


2012/10/10 09:06:19
Jim Roseberry
Workflow changes... Auto Zoom, Track auto zoom, Track layers, Smart tool.... get my vote.



+1


The small changes that make day-to-day use much nicer...
2012/10/10 09:35:32
kevo
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
]

Hi Craig,

My vote as a nice topic for an X2 power user column would be exploring the quick grouping features available.  Quick grouping has been enhanced quite a bit in X2 with several new operations available and there are a ton of things that you can do to simplify common tasks that users have not discovered.  
If you are doing PC FXChains you can even touch on this topic there - every control in PC effects chains is quick groupable so you can affect multiple effects chains by simply selecting tracks/buses and moving controls.

One of the cool things with quik grouping is being able to insert a module in PC into several/or all tracks at the same time and set the controls all at the same time.  For instance, If you intend on using the Console Emulator, it can be inserted into all tracks at the same time, positioned in the PC, and the controls set to what you want.
 
Something that I'm not certain of is it an oversite that the "Key" parameter on midi tracks cannot be Quick grouped? Also, why would there be a hot key to change the parameter by '8' instead of an octave '12' like in all previous versions of Sonar?
 
2012/10/10 10:35:57
Blogman
Lack of VST3 support. ;)
2012/10/10 10:43:21
leapinlizard
I vote for the Pro Channel and FX Chains.  Love your articles, btw ... keep 'em comin'!  I've been reading your stuff since the Guitar Player mag days in the seventies.
2012/10/10 11:00:04
bapu
chuckebaby


lanes man...lanes..automation and take lanes..the best thing since sliced onions.

+1.98778685744759
2012/10/10 11:06:19
vintagevibe
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
]

Hi Craig,

My vote as a nice topic for an X2 power user column would be exploring the quick grouping features available.  Quick grouping has been enhanced quite a bit in X2 with several new operations available and there are a ton of things that you can do to simplify common tasks that users have not discovered.  
If you are doing PC FXChains you can even touch on this topic there - every control in PC effects chains is quick groupable so you can affect multiple effects chains by simply selecting tracks/buses and moving controls.

Noel, why did they remove the ability to quick group Key +/- starting with X1?
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