Sanchezco

synkrotron


Duplicating MIDI and audio clips could be done by either using the standard Windows cut and paste commands, Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V, although you have to be careful with respect to active track and Now Time marker.

The method I prefer is to select the clip and hold down Ctrl while dragging an existing clip to a new location, hence creating a copy.

I can't answer the audio loop question because I do not use loops.

Thanks!!!!
I'll try that:-D


Anyone else who can help me with how I can change loop tempo of an Audio track to fit Project tempo in a fast way?

The documentation indicates that in X2, it is ctrl+alt+x to cut, ctrl+alt+c to copy, ctrl+v is a regular paste, and ctrl+alt+v to do something called paste special - paste special gives you some additional choices than a regular paste.  When you do the copy in Sonar, a little dialog box opens and you get to pick and choose what sorts of things it copies midi events in track, temp changes, etc - with each having a box to check or not.


The above keyboard shortcuts ARE what I use to accomplish cut/copy/paste/paste-special.

I also am not loopy (I do not use loops), so I too cannot help with that.  Something in the back of my brain is trying to tell me that groove clips automatically follow the tempo of the tune, and I think if your audio loop is set up to be a groove clip that will just sort of happen for you.  Please look up Groove Clip in the documentation to verify, because the back of brain is often giving me really really bad advice.  (2 marriages, the leisure suit I owned from SEARS back in 1979, you don't want to know the rest).

This is a link to the X2 documentation on Groove Clips - Audio: http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=Looping.06.html#1111185

There is an IMPORTANT link within the page above that talks about the PITCH of Audio Groove Clips.  Make sure you read that.

OK - here is a linkto another page in the X2 documentation, about how to convert AUDIO clips to Groove Clips: http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=Looping.09.html#1081277

That one looks to be precisely what you are trying to do.  So give a read of the above documentation, give it a shot, and post back with any results and/or new questions, and one or usually many folks will try to help you.

Welcome to our dysfunctional little family.
Bob Bone

Hi Bob,

When I saw your post I thought I might of misled the OP a little. I've just checked the X2 Reference Guide though, and here is a section from it:-

Cut  = CTRL+X
Cut Special = CTRL+ALT+X
Copy = CTRL+C
Copy Special = CTRL+ALT+C
Paste = CTRL+V
Paste Special = CTRL+ALT+V

When you click on CTRL+ALT+C, for instance, a dialog box appears allowing you to specify what to copy. And I think the same happens for all of the "special" operations.

Also, a lot can depend on what it is you are copying and pasting.

I suppose that the thing here is that the answer to the question isn't as straight forward as one first thinks, and further reading and experimentation is required.

I've gotten lazy over the years, hence most of my copying operations are of the drag while holding CTRL down type, because I got fed up with not getting the result I was after. More my problem than the software.

And even if you have a clip (audio or MIDI) that you copy to slightly the wrong position, you can still move/tweak it afterwards.

Another example of each to their own...


cheers

andy

After I had posted, it occurred to me that the doc was just inconsistent.

What I SHOULD have said, rather than DOC, was that if you right-click on a clip, the pop-up options do not mention the standard  Windows shortcuts for any except for paste.  For the others, as I noted, they all include the alt key.

Guess that should be addressed at some point in the documentation and on-screen context text.

Anyways, the good news for our poster is that he now has some info on how to do the things he posted about, 

Bob Bone

robert_e_bone


Anyways, the good news for our poster is that he now has some info on how to do the things he posted about,  

Absolutely :-D

Just make it into a Groove Clip. CTRL+L.

Hey - we've ALL been him.   I often still am him.  There is an awful lot I still have to learn, and sometimes relearn, and usually more correctly learn.

One of the more interesting things I have observed is that right in the middle of a furious back and forth tirade between folks, is that if a newcomer to Sonar happens to post in that thread, that virtually ALL hostility ceases for any responses to the newcomer, and then everyone gets FIRED UP again with everyone but the new guy.

It's pretty cool to see such an immediate sensitivity to any newcomer to the family.

Now - SHUT UP (just kidding - that was purely for the sport of it - hee hee)

Bob Bone

Tell you what Bob, this is one of the most civil, polite forums I've EVER been a member of, and I don't just mean Pro-audio forums.

So get on with your work

Thanks - GRRR - :) - sigh

I think that about sums it up, 

Bob Bone

robert_e_bone

Sanchezco

synkrotron


Duplicating MIDI and audio clips could be done by either using the standard Windows cut and paste commands, Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V, although you have to be careful with respect to active track and Now Time marker.

The method I prefer is to select the clip and hold down Ctrl while dragging an existing clip to a new location, hence creating a copy.

I can't answer the audio loop question because I do not use loops.

Thanks!!!!
I'll try that:-D


Anyone else who can help me with how I can change loop tempo of an Audio track to fit Project tempo in a fast way?

The documentation indicates that in X2, it is ctrl+alt+x to cut, ctrl+alt+c to copy, ctrl+v is a regular paste, and ctrl+alt+v to do something called paste special - paste special gives you some additional choices than a regular paste.  When you do the copy in Sonar, a little dialog box opens and you get to pick and choose what sorts of things it copies midi events in track, temp changes, etc - with each having a box to check or not.


The above keyboard shortcuts ARE what I use to accomplish cut/copy/paste/paste-special.

I also am not loopy (I do not use loops), so I too cannot help with that.  Something in the back of my brain is trying to tell me that groove clips automatically follow the tempo of the tune, and I think if your audio loop is set up to be a groove clip that will just sort of happen for you.  Please look up Groove Clip in the documentation to verify, because the back of brain is often giving me really really bad advice.  (2 marriages, the leisure suit I owned from SEARS back in 1979, you don't want to know the rest).

This is a link to the X2 documentation on Groove Clips - Audio: http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=Looping.06.html#1111185

There is an IMPORTANT link within the page above that talks about the PITCH of Audio Groove Clips.  Make sure you read that.

OK - here is a linkto another page in the X2 documentation, about how to convert AUDIO clips to Groove Clips: http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation/default.aspx?Doc=SONAR%20X2&Lang=EN&Req=Looping.09.html#1081277

That one looks to be precisely what you are trying to do.  So give a read of the above documentation, give it a shot, and post back with any results and/or new questions, and one or usually many folks will try to help you.

Welcome to our dysfunctional little family.
Bob Bone

Want to thank aall of you for your help! Tested it yesterday and this is really what I was looking for:-)



Its such a positive atmosphere in this forum!! Very glad to be a meember of the cakewalk family!:-)


Well, I have just two more questions...


1: I cant see any vertical gridlines on the arrange window? 
2: In Sonar,  how do I make pitch drops on audio files?


All the best!!

From the X2 Reference Guide:-

[Track view] View > Display > Vertical Grid Lines > None
Enabling this option causes SONAR to not display vertical grid lines in the Clips pane.
[Track view] View > Display > Vertical Grid Lines > Behind Clips
Enabling this option causes SONAR to display vertical lines in the Clips pane that are one measure
apart. Vertical grid lines are displayed, but clips will draw on top of them, so clip contents will not be obstructed.
[Track view] View > Display > Vertical Grid Lines > In Front of Clips
Enabling this option causes SONAR to display vertical lines in the Clips pane that are one measure apart. Vertical grid lines are displayed and drawn on top of clips, always visible.