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2012/10/09 00:23:21
jyoung
Sonar X2 64, W7 x64, Virus TI Polar
 
I add an instrument track for my TI and set it up for bank 1. I can record, playback, everything is fine. I add another MIDI track and set it up for bank 2 of the TI, select a patch, record, playback, all is good. Now when I go to solo the second track the first track gets soloed also. I can solo the first track, but the second one by itself. It's like the second track has some kind of linked relationship with the initial instrument track. Any suggestions as to how I can solo each track independently?
2012/10/09 06:21:37
robert_e_bone
Hi - I do not have the same midi keyboard as you, but tried to replicate your test using a Yamaha keyboard.

I inserted 2 midi tracks and recorded two different tracks of midi data, with the output of each track going back to the Yamaha keyboard.

I did not experience the same issues as you did when I tried soloing each track - did each one in different order, then had both selected.

In all cases, sound played back as expected:

1.  Neither track soloed played back both sets of midi data
2.  Track 1 soloed played back just track 1's data
3. Track 2 soloed played back just track 2's data.
4.  Soloing both tracks played back both track 1 and track 2's data - just like having neither track soloed did

In the above, I did NOT have instrument tracks - I have never used those - I just inserted 2 midi tracks.

Please forgive my ignorance here - I understand the TI to be a physical keyboard - how would I create a Simple Instrument track for this device?  It is my understanding that a Simple Instrument track can be created through inserting a soft synth, as a result of having the box checked in the insert soft synth options dialog box, and that a simple instrument track is a merged track with both audio and midi being stored in the same track.

If my understanding is correct, then how would I be able to create a simple instrument track for my Yamaha keyboard?  If you can explain this to me, I would be happy to try and test this all out using my Yamaha keyboard.

Bob Bone

2012/10/09 08:17:45
John
One other thing to check is if Dim Solo is on.
2012/10/09 10:02:54
daveny5

I add an instrument track for my TI and set it up for bank 1



Do you mean MIDI track here? You can't add an Instrument track without a softsynth. 


I tried it. I agree you must have Dim Solo on. 
2012/10/09 10:07:27
js516
The TI and TI2 use a VSTi for controlling the synth. So in effect its set up like a soft synth.

http://virus.info/page/re...as_vst_au_plug_in.html
2012/10/09 10:13:46
jyoung
js516


The TI and TI2 use a VSTi for controlling the synth. So in effect its set up like a soft synth.

http://virus.info/page/render/lang/en/p/59/do/Total_Integration_rtas_vst_au_plug_in.html


Thanks for the response. I've been using my Polar for years, so I'm pretty well versed in how it operates. The TI plugin can virtualize 16 different instruments. The problem I'm having is that after configuring the first instrument track, if I setup an additional MIDI track and point it to the 2nd voice of the TI plugin I can't solo the 2nd track independently of the instrument track.
2012/10/09 10:17:10
daveny5
OK. I tried it with an instrument/softsynth track and a MIDI track and the Solo button worked as it should. 
2012/10/09 12:23:25
robert_e_bone
I had no issues with it either, repeating my test using a soft synth and 2 instrument tracks.

Even if it is inefficient for memory usage, what happens if you use a 2nd instance of your TI vsti?

Bob Bone

2012/10/09 12:57:13
jyoung
robert_e_bone


Even if it is inefficient for memory usage, what happens if you use a 2nd instance of your TI vsti?

Bob Bone
The TI vst only allows one instance to be created. Why? The vst is there to control the TI hardware and you can only have one TI hooked up to your DAW.

2012/10/09 13:11:01
robert_e_bone
Thanks for 'splainin - I'm out of ideas, sorry.

Bob Bone
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