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  • Strange MIDI track behavior - Virus TI (p.2)
2012/10/09 19:28:35
js516
Did you record the second track while playing back the first? If you did, Sonar may have accidentally recorded both the new events along with a copy of the first. This can happen several ways, the most common is the synth merging data onto its midi out. Check the second tracks event list to see if you have events for both midi channels.
2012/10/10 00:11:41
jyoung
 
I think I figured it out. With a multi-instrument like the TI I need to avoid using it with instrument tracks entirely. I reworked my project to have a stand-alone TI synth and multiple MIDI tracks feeding into it, one for each voice of the plugin. That seems to be working fine now. I can mute and solo the tracks independently.
 
Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions.
2012/10/10 00:22:51
robert_e_bone
YAY!  I have no background with the instrument tracks - I always set up separate audio and midi tracks.

Glad this works for you now, 

Bob Bone
2012/10/10 07:19:57
Mystic38
jyoung


Sonar X2 64, W7 x64, Virus TI Polar
 
I add an instrument track for my TI and set it up for bank 1. I can record, playback, everything is fine. I add another MIDI track and set it up for bank 2 of the TI, select a patch, record, playback, all is good. Now when I go to solo the second track the first track gets soloed also. I can solo the first track, but the second one by itself. It's like the second track has some kind of linked relationship with the initial instrument track. Any suggestions as to how I can solo each track independently?

Setup your Virus instance using "midi source, synth track folder, all synth audio outs, display automation on midi source.
When virus has instantiated, insert additional midi tracks, move them to the virus folder and direct their outputs to the plug-in channels.
 
There are no issues in solo'ing individual tracks in the Virus Ti... just make sure you solo the midi tracks, not the audio tracks.. if you have 4 patches assigned to stereo outs 1 and you solo the audio track, you will of course hear all four patches.
 
regards
2012/10/10 11:57:20
jyoung
There are no issues in solo'ing individual tracks in the Virus Ti... just make sure you solo the midi tracks, not the audio tracks.. if you have 4 patches assigned to stereo outs 1 and you solo the audio track, you will of course hear all four patches.

 
Thanks for the reply. That confirms the setup that I'm  now using for the TI.
 
Now if someone can tell me how to stop Sonar from sending bank resets to my TI every time I start play
2012/10/10 12:33:06
Mystic38
jyoung



There are no issues in solo'ing individual tracks in the Virus Ti... just make sure you solo the midi tracks, not the audio tracks.. if you have 4 patches assigned to stereo outs 1 and you solo the audio track, you will of course hear all four patches.

 
Thanks for the reply. That confirms the setup that I'm  now using for the TI.
 
Now if someone can tell me how to stop Sonar from sending bank resets to my TI every time I start play
 
Are you saying you can now solo tracks at will..ie your original question is resolved?..
 
with regards to bank resets..please identify exactly what you mean .. "bank" is usually in reference to patches and they are selected in VC..  however the best place to start is by assuming you are doing something wrong.. its what i do and sadly i am right 90%+ of the time!..lol.. but fwiw Sonar doesnt do these things by itself :)
 
Whether I use a project template that includes virus + maschine or a saved track template for the virus with a default patch, or simply instantiate the virus into a current project i see no such activity occurring.. so I would look at the midi event view, and your midi oriented options, and see what you are sending to the virus..
 
 
2012/10/10 13:07:42
jyoung
 
Yes, I'm now able to solo the TI MIDI tracks individually.
 

with regards to bank resets..please identify exactly what you mean .. "bank" is usually in reference to patches and they are selected in VC..

 
Yes, that is exactly what I mean. I'm not doing anything unusual with the TI. I set the patches that I want to play, configure the MIDI tracks to point to them. But, when I play back a particular track, the patch for the track as I setup in VC, gets immediately reset to some other default patch. I've looked at the MIDI event list and I don't see any command to change patches. By all appearances, it looks like Sonar is just taking control and changing the patch on its own. I've seen other folks complaining about a similar problem with other VSTs, but I have not seen a clear resolution to their problems.
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