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2012/10/07 21:12:08
Coreysan
 In a cakewalk tutorial project called "Cakewalk_Audiodemo", there's an audio track called
"GTY Rhythm". Its got a good stereo mix for the electric gtr.
 
How is that done? Is it by sending lower freqs to the left and higher freqs to the right?
Or Chorusing?
 
Coreysan
 
2012/10/07 21:24:27
clintmartin
Channel tools work great for guitars. Basically you have a guitar recorded in stereo, Pull up channel tools and delay one side a bit. You can also clone a track, pan them and nudge one a little...5 to 10ms.
2012/10/07 23:38:21
tunekicker
Helmut Haas discovered that "A single reflection arriving within 5 to 30 ms can be up to 10 dB louder than the direct sound without being perceived as a secondary auditory event (echo)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haas_effect

So placing delay on one side as Clint says can work to widen the mix, and it actually works ok up to 30 ms.  


Peace,

Tunes
2012/10/08 02:18:40
gearandguitars
Here's two blog posts that may offer some insight. I'm not claiming to be an expert, just sharing my experience and process. 

demo chords sketch (Wide Guitars): 
http://soundcloud.com/cor...g-sur-demo-outline-mix

about the demo / sketch - screenshots,  info & notes: 
http://gearandguitars.blo...itars-demo-sketch.html

finished (?) song: 
http://soundcloud.com/cor..ovista/big-sur-lapsteel

about the final song & lap steel - screenshots, info & notes: 
http://gearandguitars.blo...ge-ae-3-lap-steel.html
2012/10/08 08:13:55
Guitarhacker
I like to record the track twice..... not clone it... and then pan them at least 60% R/L. It makes for a nice wide sound...
2012/10/08 10:34:12
robert_e_bone
Tony Banks, the keyboard player from Genesis, got a nicely fat keyboard sound by doing the slight delay on one side trick - works really nicely.

Bob Bone
2012/10/08 11:42:33
John
How to get that great wide stereo sound

Get a really big house!
2012/10/08 11:46:59
gearandguitars
Guitarhacker


I like to record the track twice..... not clone it... and then pan them at least 60% R/L. It makes for a nice wide sound...

This is actually my preferred method now too. 




2012/10/08 12:05:48
Jim Roseberry
This is actually my preferred method now too. 


Adding a slight delay to a copied guitar track can affect the stereo position (pan)

I (too) prefer to manually double-track parts that need a wide stereo image.
The subtle differences between the two takes creates a nice wide animated stereo image.
Much more dynamic/alive sounding that simply cloning a track and adding delay...

Stereo pitch/modulation/delay effects can also enhance the stereo image.
2012/10/08 12:06:19
datadog



Guitarhacker


I like to record the track twice..... not clone it... and then pan them at least 60% R/L. It makes for a nice wide sound...

This is actually my preferred method now too.
 
Yes, this method sounds great in stereo but can lose mono compatibility

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