They mention Roland V-Vocal on the main page.

Damn.

Was hoping it would be something new! Apparently there was a video in which Brandon was hinting at V-Vocal hitting the end of its life span?.. Hope to god it's at least going to V-Vocal 2.0, PLEASE fix the terrible audio quality! Pitch correction is a very commonly used tool these days - so make it good, damn you! Fingers crossed they are withholding that announcement for the second teaser.

Automation lanes look cool.

Doesn't really look like much yet, but I'm sure they are holding back all the good stuff and purely just getting us excited about the X2 side of things, they don't want to be letting out all the cool stuff too soon or there will be nothing left to tease us with. All that has to come out close to release date so we can all still feel giddy and excited and buy buy buy. Spill the beans too soon and we'll get over it when release date arrives.

Oh and it looks pretty. Why does every new update always look extra pretty? Is it 'shinny red ball' syndrome?

Beepster


It's all good, alex. I'm just frazzled by some other stuff and this topic wasn't helping. Gonna toss that steam into the strings. That usually makes me feel better. Cheers.

Making or producing music can be a big help(to me anyway).
 
Have fun!

Does anyone know of a pre-release sale ?? I'd buy it tonight based on my past experiences with Cakewalk.

 
+1
 
J

Ionian


Does anyone know if Cakewalk is going to come to their senses and return the phase and stereo interleave buttons BACK to each individual track?  I purchased that abortion known as X1 and haven't used it once, the minute I realized that Cakewalk crippled it by removing them.  If I could have gotten my money back, I would have.  

I've stayed at 8.5.  Hopefully Cake will start focusing on professionals again.  


Although I've managed to talk 3 people out of buying X1 by showing them X1 and how it's been crippled since 8.5 so I'm happy about that!  If I couldn't get my money back for X1, at least I took 3 sales away from cakewalk.  

Regards,
Frank

It's all in the inspector. I was frustrated at first too when I couldn't find it, but I think it's more appropriate in the inspector now, keeps it out of the way. It's more of a set it and leave it feature, unlike panning and volume and fx bins etc. You don't need it cluttering up each track when you only use it once or twice in a project then never need to touch again.

Beepster


@kitekrazy... Yeah I hear ya. I just want to know the Bakers thoughts on this or the other users. As I said I am new to these products so I'm not sure how it all works and someone did mention the possibility that something might be done for folks like myself. Unfortunately some of the other forum users are taking that as whining or bashing Cake. Very disappointing really because that is NOT what I'm doing. I have nothing to bash them for as I don't even know their stance on the issue yet. Peace.

I see exactly where you are coming from dude. I would be upset too but at the same time it is simply the way of the software world. If I were you I would just sit on X1 for a few months and wait for one of those 50% off upgrade sales that come around in January or February of each year. It usually takes that long for them to work many of the early bugs out anyway. Many early adopters of Sonar tend to pay extra for extra bugs just to say they got it a few months earlier. I am debating on waiting but I want to try a demo first. If X2 works exactly as it is supposed to I will sing the praises of Cakewalk day and night. Many people here are just thin skinned is all they cannot handle people bad mouthing their tool of choice. I see it on various forums though I think Sonar fanbois are some of the worst fanbois around

Random thoughts after watching the video...with frequent pause-and-rewinds. (I know attention spans are getting shorter and shorter, but really?)

I'm glad to see that CW appears to be getting back on track after their (hopefully) brief obsession with looking like Studio One. Back to some ergonomic editing, organization, composition and workflow features. There is insufficient information to decide if it's enough to bring me back on board, though - marketing hype can raise your expectations unrealistically.
The main reason I stayed on 8.5 is because of what they did to automation editing in X1. Will automation lanes save the day? We'll see. But mention of automation editing enhancements makes me cautiously optimistic. This, for me anyway, is the primary potential deal maker/breaker.

The Replace Synth feature could be a useful enhancement, although what I'm always wishing for is a Replace Plugin feature.

Many other bullet points could turn out to be anything from uber-cool to ho-hum, given the lack of details. "Aim editing"? "PRV editing enhancements"? "Widget enhancement?" All of these could be wonderful improvements (maybe the widget enhancements are that you can put the interleave button back in the track header!!!)

Breverb, I'll take it but I don't need it. Is this a "lite" version? The Overloud version goes for $200. The UI looks the same, but I'm guessing there are fewer algorithms in the SONAR-bundled version. Ever since ValhallaRoom came along, I'm guessing it's pretty tough selling $200 reverbs anymore.

R-Mix, meh. When I first saw it I thought it might be akin to Adobe Audition's spectral editor. Alas, it is not. A toy for remixers, I think. This also appears to be a "lite" version of the (normally $200) full product, based on fewer UI elements.

Many new features fall under the category of "might be interesting but probably won't be". "Smart snap" for example. Only loopers and drag 'n drop "composers" snap to a grid. Real audio - the kind that comes out of a microphone - does not quantize. Matrix view enhancements are definitely irrelevant to conventional recordists. Auto track zoom? Enhanced time-ruler zoom? Unless they've done something really clever, nah. And don't get me started on "console emulation", the emperor's latest fad.

In the screenshots, it appears that clips now have title bars. That could be useful, but not useful enough to give up a quarter-inch of vertical screen real estate per track. Maybe they're optional.

MIDI timing and MIDI/audio sync enhancements, audio engine optimizations - now that's the old Cakewalk I've grown up with! Marketing doesn't know how to sell stuff like that, but it's key to long-term customer loyalty.

I'll be waiting till Jan or Feb regardless as I'm not going to be switching to X2 in the middle of my album. So I'm happy to patiently wait for the nice 50% off sale :)

Bitflipper, I got the impression from your post that you thought the video was a bit lame. I certainly did. What's with this stupid 'accessing database' crap?!?! I'm not 15 years old! It was like it was marketed to teenagers....


I do like the idea of a new reverb though. I'm not a fan really of convolution as I hate going through all the patches. I'd rather something I can just tweak to get exactly the sound I want, rather than trying to edit a convo sound which is kinda what I want. And Sonitus reverb sounds crap.

mattplaysguitar


 I'm not 15 years old! It was like it was marketed to teenagers....

It's the gamers lamers slackers hackers Matrix Reloaded scenario...

They at least have to make you THINK that it's exciting...

John


If it make you feel better I got GR5 for $79 last month. I just bought Kontakt 5 for $59. LOL I would have paid more for Kontakt.

where did you find Kontakt for $59!!! I need that in my life I was ready to pay $140 for a crossgrade only to have my car go down and me have to use that money to replace my starter     

cclarry

mattplaysguitar


I'm not 15 years old! It was like it was marketed to teenagers....

It's the gamers lamers slackers hackers Matrix Reloaded scenario...

They at least have to make you THINK that it's exciting...

Haha, these hackers are useless! Going to take them another MONTH before they can hack cakewalk again??? Sheesh...   :P