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2012/08/01 23:02:59
John
Beepster


Okay... after slapping my guit around for I while I have bled a bit of the poison from my soul and can think a little more clearly. If I still have access to Cake support... cool. That's what was freaking me out the most. I do actually like to let hi tech products sink in for a bit too to make sure I'm not fixing something that ain't broke only to have it break and I'm still bumbling my way around learning the Sonar way so I don't mind sitting on what I have and in fact prefer it which is why I was hoping X1 would stick around for a while longer. Doesn't matter. It works and if something screws up the boys will be there for me. Perfect. As far as X2 I guess if there was a $50 upgrade for me that would be acceptable. If it is a $100... meh... okay I guess. Any more than that I think it might leave a bit of a bitter taste but whatever. That's life. I have very much been enjoying X1 so far so don't take me as a kvetcher but I am pretty... uh "thrifty" because I don't have any other choice. I literally starved myself to get this set up bought and running. There just isn't any more to give. Knowaddimean? Cheers guys and thanks for the answers. I feel better now.

Stick around a bit longer? LOL I have been using it for nearly 2 years now. In DAW years that is 2 lifetimes.  At least with CW. 


I've gone through X1 a, b, c, and d than Expanded. I am ready for a full new version. 


I do agree with your new view. Take your time and see how it all comes out. 


Me, I will jump on it as soon as I can. 
2012/08/01 23:18:58
perfectprint
cool, heres Zo's channel for anyone else needing a link- http://www.youtube.com/us...ThaGreat?feature=g-u-u The Waves NLS videos will give an indication of what the new console emulation is about.
2012/08/01 23:19:05
RodC
insane especially since the items were not removed just move to a better place. How idiotic. 



No they were not moved to a better place.  Before this change you didn't even need the inspector, saving lots of valuable screen real estate.  So now my I key is wore out turning the inspector on and off.  :)




2012/08/01 23:23:32
congalocke
Thanks Perfectprint...That guy is totally Kool for going through the Slate Digital VCC like that! Seems like a really nice guy...
2012/08/01 23:26:17
winyardPro
...Again you get punished for buying sooner rather than later. Shouldn't it be free for all users prior to a certain date not after? More money for something that the PC gives for free. X1 users are still at a disadvantage for expanding the company.
2012/08/01 23:27:41
winyardPro
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2012/08/01 23:37:51
mumpcake
It seems to me that a lot of the new features are things already in expanded.
2012/08/02 00:01:31
John
RodC


insane especially since the items were not removed just move to a better place. How idiotic. 



No they were not moved to a better place.  Before this change you didn't even need the inspector, saving lots of valuable screen real estate.  So now my I key is wore out turning the inspector on and off.  :)

Really? You use the phase and stereo buttons that often? I think I have used the stereo one once. I have had no reason to use the phase button at all. 


The Inspector was also in 8.  Its better now though. I was one that asked CW to add functions to it. I also wanted it to be much as it is now. So you are not going to be able to find any fault with it from my view point. Sorry. I really like it as it now is. 


To me its a huge improvement. The other thing that I like is the fact the height of a track is not as important as it used to be in order to use or even see track widgets.  The Inspector takes care of all the widgets, grouping them in a useful way and one I don't have to customize in order to use. 


What I think is those that complain about the changes in the GUI often overlook what it has meant to many of us that wanted these changes. Not only do I except them but I find them important for my workflow. 


You have a very different view and you have a right to it. But keep in mind that it was that way before and it was found wanting. Give this GUI its due and perhaps you will see how useful it is to most of us. 








2012/08/02 00:31:08
xabiton
Linear Phase


xabiton

I was using Avast until a few days ago but before that I had Kapursky didn't seem to make a difference I have had em all and they have all more or less given me problems. As far as Asio-latency I cannot open Sonar without getting a BSOD so sending screen shots would not work. Its currently not even installed because I got so frusterated. I think I may have bad ram though because when I get the BSOD its usually a Cache_manager warning but again this only happens in Sonar no issues running Live or Reason or Cubase LE.  

Free anti-virus?  meh!  :-) there is some OK free anti-spyware.. ( spybot, adaware se, malwarebytes ) but free anti-virus has always given me a headache.

BSOD?  Really, every time you open up Sonar?  If that is really the case, than its got to be affecting your other software, whether or not you have seen the effect.

I'm not a computer pro by any stretch of the imagination, but I am totally curious now..  so..  um..  What's your computer make, and model, when did you buy it, and where?  How much ram was in the machine when you bought it, and who installed the extra ram?  What type of ram, and what brand?  You are using windows 7 home premium, 64 bit?  besides the ignition key, that is in the Reason balance what are your other dongles, and types of copy protect?  what are your monitors?  will reason balance work with Asio4All?  When was the last time you did a system backup and restore?  Have you thought about re-installing windows?

I have not had a BSOD on Windows 7.  The last time I saw a BSOD on windows was in 2007, just before I switched to Mac, and had a pentium 4 that was several years old..  Since returning to Windows, and these new cheap modern multi-core machines...  no BSOD's.. yet..  knock on wood...
cheers

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+15.6%26%2334%3B+Series+7+Laptop+-+8GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive+-+Silver/5575679.p?id=1218665501364&skuId=5575679&st=samsung%207%20series&cp=1&lp=2

That is my laptop 8 gigs of ram stock never needed to upgrade. bought it in February I have reinstalled windows and the problems never really changed I did since that post do a cache update that Samsung released recently and now Sonar at least opens and runs ok but the vst scanner crashes everytime I try to use it. No other dongles I try to keep my setup dongle free but I love Reason and its my favorite music making program (sorry Cakewalk) so the ignition key was worth dealing with for me. No other copy protection other than the software e licenser on my system for a few arturia synths I am demoing. Balance works with Asio4all but its own drivers are much better. I did a system back up and restore about a month ago maybe 2 months. That avast was a headache to get rid of though had to contact their support to do a clean uninstall Cakewalk tech support said that any anti virus will screw up Sonar. I couldn't install it completely at one point but since doing that update i was able to at least get a successful install of X1a and I am currently downloading B C and D so I can be on the latest update and maybe even ditch my issues with the vst scanner which is a new issue that usually does not happen in Sonar. But since updating my Cache deal from Samsung I have had no problems with Sonar besides the vst scanner *knock on wood* if I can get Sonar working as advertised 85-95% of the time (i am a 10 year reason owner I am spoiled by stability) I will preorder X2 Producer just to show I have no ill feelings towards Cakewalk though I know release updates are buggier than an ant farm
2012/08/02 00:33:50
xabiton
cecelius2


mmarton

pdlstl

xabiton

That console emulation looks like a load of fun. I am wondering what the new model is if I remember right the current ones are a neve and a ssl in producer right? what is this A model?     
I have Slate VCC and the A console in it is the API.

The SONAR console emulation is going to have to be pretty bada** to slay the Slate VCC. 2¢
     I also have Slate VCC, so I'm wondering if this new console emulation in X2 is proprietary or "licenced".  And agreed, pretty tall order to outdo the Slate VCC.
I am interested in what the "new console emulation" will be.  Sonar X1 prochannel already has modules for an SSL type console; so I hope this will be something other than another SSL type console.


Anyone have a clue if the TH2 will be a spripped down lite version or the real deal?  I don't own Overloud's TH2 and this addition might be a nice supplement to GR, Amplitube and the greatest of all boutique amp sims, the Scuffham S-Gear. 

I am thinking its an Api console. It would make sense seeing that the S type (ssl) and N type (neve) are already kinda obvious A type seems like a strong suggestion
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