I will be very surprised if the upgrade from X1e or producer to X2P is less that $179.00. If I were saving I would plan for $179.00 or $199.00 and be pleasantly surprised if it is less. It has been twice the usual time between full upgrades and money isn't worth what it used to be, everything costs more... so, I'd be prepared for something near 200 bucks and then be happy if it is less.
Maybe it will be $99.00 but I'll be surprised if it is... I'll also be very happy, but I'll be happy in any case. (I don't like being unhappy, it takes too much energy IMO).
It surely suq if you just bought your first Cakewalk software but we all at some point paid the full entry price then were faced with an upgrade price in a year or less.

I'll probably bite as soon as it comes out, after all is said and done that seems to me to be the best route to take... at least for me, YMMV.

All the best!

Julien

Julien very thoughtful presentation. 

I think because X1 was / is a major rework where a lot of programming and thought went into it yet it came in as a $99 upgrade I don't think CW is going to go back to the old pricing scheme. I believe strongly that X2 will be priced about the same as X1 was.  

What we will see now are tweaks and enhancements but few huge changes in the foreseeable future. 

X2 as nice as it appears to be is not, shall we say, DAW 2. That nomenclature  belongs to X1. X1 was as massive an undertaking as Sonar was from Pro Audio 9.

CW had to rethink just about everything when they brought us X1. It was the big show. Now they can sit back a little and build on its success. 

I see X2 as an evolution therefore I don't see it as in the same context as X1. 

We shall see though. That is a sure bet.  I will also bet no matter how low the price we will get upset postings. 

+1 to everything you said John. X2 is X1 but with some tweaks here and there with some new features including those additional VSTs. R-mix is cool, but not everyone is going to have a use for it. $179 to upgrade would be too steep, especially with the economy and high gas prices. $149 to upgrade for Producer customers is also a hit in their wallets. It should be as enticing and affordable as possible. $99 to upgrade for Producer customers and $49 for Expanded customers. These prices will be a No Brainer for most people and they won't have to wait around for a promotion or discount. The higher the prices are set, the higher the chances that people are unwilling to upgrade and Cakewalk will have to work harder to advertise, promote and market to these folks.

$49 would get me on board and be happy immediately. $99 would be okay. $149... pushin' it. That's from an Expanded customer FWIW if the management is watching.

I agree with both Beepster and every word of Skylightron. 

IIRC, previous annual updates have been $179 for Producer to Producer (top Sonar version to top Sonar version).

I added up what I spent on X1 Expanded $99(8.5->X1) + $49 (Expanded) + $40 (Expanded FX). So this time around, upgrading from top Sonar version to top Sonar version, I spent $188 - taking advantage of some special offers spread over 2 years 18 months.
Just sayin' :)

i really hope that x2 will finally allow the ability to select multiple clips (drum tracks) and time stretch the whole lot with one click instead of having to do it one clip at a time. i've been requesting this since sonar 6. it's a deal breaker for me unfortunately.

chilldanny


Looking great so far, excited about Automation Lanes and Auto Zoom.

But surely, the most important question is, will there be a Sonar coffee mug available to buy too??

Dammit I want that coffee mug!! ;)

Sorry you can't have that :)

Keni

FastBikerBoy

stevec

Automation lanes are an option in SONAR X2. You can still use X1 style automation as you always have. In SONAR X2 you have the choice of using automation on top of clips (using Edit Filter) or using automation lanes. You can change at will at any time.

Nice.

I've got my fingers crossed for a pop up over the ghosted data, that'll keep me happy.

BIG time!

Yes, holding down CTRL while mousing over an envelope will show its tooltip even when the parameter is not selected in the edit filter.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
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Keni

FastBikerBoy

stevec

Automation lanes are an option in SONAR X2. You can still use X1 style automation as you always have. In SONAR X2 you have the choice of using automation on top of clips (using Edit Filter) or using automation lanes. You can change at will at any time.

Nice.

I've got my fingers crossed for a pop up over the ghosted data, that'll keep me happy.

BIG time!

Yes, holding down CTRL while mousing over an envelope will show its tooltip even when the parameter is not selected in the edit filter.

Yeah baby!