All Sonar versions have in the past been completely separate installations which can be run side by side with previous versions, or the older ones can be deleted - it's your choice.

I can't see Cake moving away from this philosophy

Besides that, can you imagine the coding nightmare involved in upgrading an existing installation?

Users can currently have X1, X1a, X1b, X1c, X1d, X1c Expanded, X1d expanded - how would the installer cope with knowing which files to overwrite? And that's without figuring in other options for Essential, Studio etc.

No, if this isn't a stand-alone, self-sufficient version, I'll buy it for you myself! That's a promise!

Dappa1


How do you guys know that you dont need to uninstall or delete X1?

How close are you guys to telepathy or the insiders at cakewalk?

Surpises me how much knowledge of a new product you have got. Wouldn't it be better to wait and see or to ask questions to get information first.

Some of you guys are from the Water Margins aren't you cool it down sensei!

The same way we know the sun will rise or that night goes into day. Its the way its always been. Why would CW change the way it has operated since forever? 


You are the one that would need to provide evidence to dispute what users have known for as long as CW has been in business.   

Noel wrote at Post # 324  above:-

" ........ some major updates to the audio, MIDI and automation engines ......... "

and

" ........ we have also made some very significant and noticeable improvements to editing in general, as well as smoothing out transitions with some common operations that users complained about ...... "

Noel - you should be a diplomat  :)

I'm guesing the above could just as easily be written as  " we have reduced, even further, the  glitching and gapping that occurs in certain operations reported by users ".

Awesome stuff Noel - the audio engine changes [ improvements ] is probably the only  " core "  issue I think that X1 was significantly missing.

I am betting that the audio engine improvments alone will make X2 a no-brainer update for most of us.
 
I know I have said this before - and I mean no disrespect or offence in any way saying this - but if X1  [  now X2 ]  had / has  the audio engine efficiency and smoothness and   " gaplessness "  of  Studio One V2 it would simply be untouchable as a DAW.
 
Seems like the X2 changes will be a significant step in this direction.
 
Kudos to you all !
 
TomG

Time to get rid of the legacy folder structure.

The current default installation folder structure is based upon adding stuff for years without reason.   And is reflective of temporary fits-of-inattention. 

Especially the "Shared " prefix added to some folders. (Sure am glad no one was allowed to prefix all folder names with "MY," the ultimate stupidity)

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I do NOT want to be forced to use the predefined folder paths used by X1.

I want to choose ALL the folders during installation: including samples, synth programs, track templates,...

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A folder structure that provides easy user-backup of user-saved data: presets, programs, loops, wavs, sysex,...

NO user data should ever be placed in hidden folders.

Currently presets are saved in about 4 places. Synth programs as well.

Attempting to save DP programs requires navagation to the correct folder. This should be a default setting, defined during installation.


j

If X2 audio is rock solid = game changer.

Sonar X1 took at least one year to get fairly stable but it's still buggy. Instead of free bugfixes on X1 they want money for a X2 upgrade... Not from me, no chance! LoL!

Dappa1


How do you guys know that you dont need to uninstall or delete X1?

How close are you guys to telepathy or the insiders at cakewalk?

Surpises me how much knowledge of a new product you have got. Wouldn't it be better to wait and see or to ask questions to get information first.

Some of you guys are from the Water Margins aren't you cool it down sensei!

Because this is not the first time I have upgraded Sonar. What makes you think this will be any different? 

They did mention improved installation. There should be a dialog that ask if you want X2 installed over X1 if it detects it on the system. And one for a separate new installation that would leave X1 intact. They should also have automatic or manual online updates instead of us having to download the patches separately then installing them - this way no one has to figure out which order of patches to install or have to uninstall, ie. the quickfixes. Just a more user friendly update approach I would say.

TomG


Noel wrote at Post # 324  above:-

" ........ some major updates to the audio, MIDI and automation engines ......... "

and

" ........ we have also made some very significant and noticeable improvements to editing in general, as well as smoothing out transitions with some common operations that users complained about ...... "

Noel - you should be a diplomat  :)

I'm guesing the above could just as easily be written as  " we have reduced, even further, the  glitching and gapping that occurs in certain operations reported by users ".

Awesome stuff Noel - the audio engine changes [ improvements ] is probably the only  " core "  issue I think that X1 was significantly missing.

I am betting that the audio engine improvments alone will make X2 a no-brainer update for most of us.
 
I know I have said this before - and I mean no disrespect or offence in any way saying this - but if X1  [  now X2 ]  had / has  the audio engine efficiency and smoothness and   " gaplessness "  of  Studio One V2 it would simply be untouchable as a DAW.
 
Seems like the X2 changes will be a significant step in this direction.
 
Kudos to you all !
 
TomG

everyone says that about every daw but I can find reasons to praise and knock sonar when compared to other daws it depends on the user. There is no best daw

skylightron


They did mention improved installation. There should be a dialog that ask if you want X2 installed over X1 if it detects it on the system. And one for a separate new installation that would leave X1 intact. They should also have automatic or manual online updates instead of us having to download the patches separately then installing them - this way no one has to figure out which order of patches to install or have to uninstall, ie. the quickfixes. Just a more user friendly update approach I would say.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2632679