• SONAR
  • X2 - Improvements to audio engine? (p.2)
2012/10/01 15:25:22
stevec
I am under the impression that X2 is a little bit more gapless than X1.

 
It definitely seems so here.   Not 100%, but I do get gapping less frequently and when I do they tend to be less obtrusive.   I like that I can drag a synth into the TV without stopping, and only the multi-out versions seem to have a noticeable effect.
 
2012/10/01 15:30:21
bapu
boredmonkey


*pressing boredmonkey joke button* Null test? I don't need no stinkin' null test. hehe J/K I've been having some X2 crashes with projects done in X1. I went ahead and did a clean Windows 7 64bit install to make sure it's not at my end. So I don't have X1 installed anymore to do a null test. Still having crashes which tells me Cakewalk needs Beta testers and stop having their first release the Beta test. I was very forgiving with X1 because it was a major overhaul, but this reeks.

So, you mus somewhere have the last export of an X1 project, right?


Open that project in X2 and do an export (no differently than you did in X1).


Now you have the contents of a null test without having to install X1.


Simples.


2012/10/01 15:44:39
musicroom
I don't null, but I think X2 sounds great. Lately I have so many people repeat what they just said, so I obviously don't have monkey ears.
2012/10/01 17:12:49
slumbermachine
When something looks better (X2) it can easily have the psychological effect of sounding better. Now, add the awesome breverb instead of the old cakewalk standby for your reverbs and for sure you just improved the quality, no need to null. Now, cakewalk just needs to give us a super high quality filter (something like frohmage audio quality, but with some cool modulation and multifilter abilities like the now impossible to get Antares filter) and some crazy expensive Lexicon quality delay effects as pro channel built in effects and we have the ultimate studio in X3. By the way, are you DC offsetting those renders, otherwise your null will not be true.
2012/10/01 18:25:23
g_randybrown
Still having crashes which tells me Cakewalk needs Beta testers and stop having their first release the Beta test.



CW uses many beta testers prior to release and they have for years...that's public knowledge.
2012/10/01 18:29:51
cryophonik
Sounds like every other DAW to me, but I am definitely finding X2 to be more stable and performing much better than X1 was.
2012/10/01 18:38:24
djwayne
Well I just did an A/B test with X2 and the Pro Channel vrs my Windows Media Player...I boosted the low and high end just a little bit with the EQ in Pro Channel, and the difference is outstanding !! Music sounds SOOOO much better thru X2 than the Windows Media Player. I can really hear the acoustic bass and drum brushes on a jazz piece that comes with Windows 7 called "Sleep Away". The difference is NOT subtle.
 
PC really brings the music to life !!!!

Don't believe me,  try it yourself. The song is located in your Windows >Libraries> music folder>sample music.  
2012/10/01 18:38:42
panup
> I am under the impression that X2 is a little bit more gapless than X1.

+1 Same here. More things can be done during playback without dropout.
2012/10/01 18:49:37
jb101
bvideo


You could "Do a null test with identical mixes from X1 and X2 and see if they cancel out..." but then everything depends on which version of Sonar you use to do the null test. The silence sounds slightly better in X2. :)


2012/10/01 18:57:01
Crg
panup


I made a null test with X1 and X2. Result: 16 bit/44100 Hz mix was perfect silence. Audio Engines of X1 and X2 output do identical mixes.


I not sure I understand this null test thing. Wouldn't every setting have to be identical in each track?
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