SteveStrummerUK
It's like saying you can't appreciate chicken vindaloo because you also happen to eat pizza.

 
Hmm... How about a chicken vindaloo pizza???  
 

craigb

SteveStrummerUK
It's like saying you can't appreciate chicken vindaloo because you also happen to eat pizza.

 
Hmm... How about a chicken vindaloo pizza???  
 

Almost there mate...
 

 
 
As our resident home-made pizza expert, I think Bill should give this recipe a go
 
 

I came back as promised and I enjoyed good stuff, thanks for sharing.

SteveStrummerUK
 
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What utter tripe Pedro.
 
And pseudo-elitist superiority-complex-infused tripe at that.
 
You do realise you're not the only person on the planet capable of appreciating different kinds of music, don't you?
 
To say that listening to one type of music can somehow diminish one's ability to enjoy another is completely preposterous.
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Actually it isn't and your attitude (notice your, not you're!) is peculiar defending Bapu, when the only music you guys talk about and discuss and love, and then create silly comments in any post is the same thing, over and over and over again ... you think you could have, by now, made a comment on any of the other music, but no ... you trash another user instead.
 
At least, I have enough respect for you guys not to do that. I like Bapu's work, and yours, but even though AC/DC and that kind of metal stuff does not grab me, I still don't go around saying you guys are stupid ... silly maybe ... but we're all silly in this bus anyway!
 
For my tastes, and I state that all the time, you guys are too centered on commercial music and top ten, to be able to appreciate something different, that is not pop or song oriented. Doesn't mean you are this and that ... just means your ears and sensibilities are aimed somewhere else ... and that's OK ... but to spend your time trashing someone is not cool.
 
Be nice for once ... go listen to a few different things. See if you can do Michael Karoli in "Mother Sky" ... see if you can do Egberto Gismonti in "Ballerina" ... and then try a little Jon Mc ... and then come to the table ... but going after someone because he happens to like those better than the repetitive and boring rock and roll folks ... is not right.

When punk, then disco and then rap came into vogue, I was confused. Those forms did nothing for me, so I naturally assumed that their fans must be brain-damaged, ignorant or just mindless trend-followers. But they did seem to be genuinely enjoying that stuff, even if I wasn't.
 
Cognitive dissonance, that's what they call it when two or more observations are simultaneously logical and contradictory. It eventually led me to an epiphany: music only exists in your head.
 
It's not waveforms or vibrating strings or angry/melancholy/humorous lyrics. Sound is merely the transmission medium that triggers a response in your brain, and only then does it become music, or annoying noise. There are definitely parallels to food preferences.
 
One does have to be open to new things, because you never know when pleasure will come from an unexpected quarter. When I lived in Oxford in 1969, some friends introduced me to Pakistani food, which was completely unknown to me. It was strange and wonderful, and completely satisfying at a visceral level. Since then I've tried food from every culture on the planet, some that worked for me and many that didn't. Dinuguan (look it up) pizza will never do anything for me. But kimchee smells just as bad and that's comfort food.
 
Don't put anyone down for the music that works for them. Instead, be a friend and introduce them to something new. Rather than dismissing their love of Big Macs, take them to an Indian buffet. Mmm.

Hi,
 
Thanks Bit ... agree completely.
 
I was thinking of that one joke that Peter Michael Hamel had on his book (Through Music to the Self) and one of my favorite "jokes" .... this guy was playing an instrument, and for everyone around him, it was all one note ... and the guy playing was very happy and saying "I got it, I got it" ... over and over again ... and everyone else was saying ... "got what?" ... and yeah, your comment was nice and appreciated and reminded me of that comment.
 
PMH's book trashes a lot of rock music, in favor of some kind of mystical classical this or that, but it was written almost 25 or 30 years ago, and he has mellowed out from his "professor" days.
 
I just find it strange when someone trashes my sensitivity to music ... I, personally, as is well known here, am not a fan of top ten and  what is considered by many as "commercial music", but it does not mean I do not like or enjoy a song here or there, so seeing Strummy write that, is kinda weird ... but it tells you the level of street noise that some folks revert to, when they do not know, or can relate to what someone else is saying. 
 
I have a very extensive music collection, and I mention the names of it all here, and share with anyone all these experiences, but for me, listening to the Shangri-La's is not my favorite mind altering experience. Or AC/DC ... but telling even Strummy, that Garry Moore's first solo album is on my favorite list of all time ... means nothing ... because it has the best and most insane guitar solo ever in it (Spirit) ... and the ending, as a rock'n'roll party bit is even better and fun ... and you want to close a concert with it, is how good it is! But this only helps me love a Gismonti even more, or a Rypdal ... but I am not sure, and ask myself all the time, if you don't hear some of these different things, how do you know there isn't something else out there?
 
I found these things far out ... but I have to admit that over the past 40 years I have heard many people consider Daevid Allen just a bunch of poop in the park, also ... so what the heck!

Nice Berlin/French school track that. Well filmed as well, though the fisheye overhead that makes the MS-20 look like it's standing on its side is a bit head-swimming at first.

Not sure about the 808 sounds though, a bit too boomy for me in that setting.

Moshkito

SteveStrummerUK
 
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What utter tripe Pedro.
 
And pseudo-elitist superiority-complex-infused tripe at that.
 
You do realise you're not the only person on the planet capable of appreciating different kinds of music, don't you?
 
To say that listening to one type of music can somehow diminish one's ability to enjoy another is completely preposterous.
 ...
 

 
Actually it isn't and your attitude (notice your, not you're!) is peculiar defending Bapu, when the only music you guys talk about and discuss and love, and then create silly comments in any post is the same thing, over and over and over again ... you think you could have, by now, made a comment on any of the other music, but no ... you trash another user instead.
 
At least, I have enough respect for you guys not to do that. I like Bapu's work, and yours, but even though AC/DC and that kind of metal stuff does not grab me, I still don't go around saying you guys are stupid ... silly maybe ... but we're all silly in this bus anyway!
 
For my tastes, and I state that all the time, you guys are too centered on commercial music and top ten, to be able to appreciate something different, that is not pop or song oriented. Doesn't mean you are this and that ... just means your ears and sensibilities are aimed somewhere else ... and that's OK ... but to spend your time trashing someone is not cool.

You're making a reasoning error.
 
Not talking about the piece in question here, but something being "different" does not automatically make it "good".
 
And if everyone had to enjoy every different type of music, you would be required to love top 40 music.
 
Having a different opinion and expressing it - or considering someone else's differing opinion - is a sign of intelligence. OTOH, you seem to always want everyone to follow your opinion (which I'm sorry to say is a sign of something else).

O the irony....someone telling everyone else they should 'listen to something different', but just offering up examples from the same 10-15 artists every single time.

jamesg1213
O the irony....someone telling everyone else they should 'listen to something different', but just offering up examples from the same 10-15 artists every single time.

10-15? I thought it was more like 30 tergabazillon LPs?