That is the version I am using .... but the problem, I believe, is with Sonar rather than the Virus as I don't have this latency issue with Ableton Live.

Yep, the problem is certianly there with Sonar and the TI software. I have it working ok, but it will crash or freeze sometimes when used with other plugins and softsynths. Although there may be other reasons for that in my case, but then you have over 3000 folks viewing this post so apparently it is a issue with Sonar.

Apart from the crashing & freezing do you have the latency issue as well ?

i am really happy that i just bought a hardware korg polysix, a roland juno 60 and a roland juno 106 in the last days - and many more will follow...
i just sold my brandnew tc-powercore pci-e that i just had bought for the virus plugin - which sounded great but still was lame on integration...
so i will finally learn to play my lines and melodies live and in realtime like i should have had learned already yeras ago...
only a few weeks ago i decided that i am so sick and tired of being a beta tester of almost every software....back in thne days when i used hardware i was making loads of songs...in the last yeras my main occupation was to upgrade/crossgrad/update/download/test/test and test again and eventually tweak....peronally i have enough - and so i am back to mainly analog - the good old feel - hands on - one fader per parameter....i am really happy and looking forward to my new songs - just had to post this reading this thread...becuase at least im my case and in the case of many producers i work with computers and plugs have only very superficially made our lives easier - after ten years of trying to convnce myself that "virtual" is great i came to the conclusion that for me this is totally wrong..

cheers

ORIGINAL: rjay

I'm re-opening this thread from about a year ago, because - despite being on Sonar 7 and the latest Virus plugin (2.7.1.0 & beta 5) - I have the problem of not being able to use any other VST synths at the same time as the Virus plugin because the latter adds huge latency to any other soft synth loaded at the same time.

I've written to both Access & Cakewalk about this, but as I haven't found any reports of this since about a year ago, has everyone here who experienced the problem, fixed it ?? I only have this problem in Sonar (which is becoming a familiar tale ...).

I installed the 2.7 beta OS yesterday, but only spent about a half hour with it. However, I did not experience any crashes, freezes, pops/crackles, etc. even while running other synths alongside my TI. I used the 2.5OS for a long time without any problems, so if I do experience any of the problems you've mentioned, I'll simply revert back to that OS until a stable official OS is released - you may want to consider doing the same thing.

Are you using the Virus as your soundcard? I'm not, which may explain why I'm not experiencing the issues you're getting (assuming that you are using it as a soundcard).

Also, it would help if you post a step-by-step detailed example of what you are doing that causes the problems, so others can try to replicate it. Also, tell us more about your setup.

As far as this being a Sonar-only issue, that's unlikely the case, but it's more likely because Access has a history of treating Cakewalk as an afterthought when it comes to the TI/Virus Control. The European DAWs (esp. Cubase and Live) seem to be Access' priority. And, let's face it - while I love my Virus, it's certainly not the most stable, problem-free piece of hardware on the market - just go check the Unofficial Access forums or Infekted.org and you'll see complaints from people using every DAW imaginable. Finally, and most importantly, you need to understand that this is a beta version of the TI OS developed by Access, so there are bound to be problems (and plenty more still to come). So, I wouldn't place all the blame on Cakewalk/Sonar. Hopefully, Access and Cakewalk will work together, as they did a year ago, to fix any compatibility issues (are you guys listening?).

The latency for me has not been that bad. I use a delta 44 sound card with the ASIO driver and I have had good results. I really like the TI and for me I dont record tracks using the TI software because Sonar 7 takes care of that just fine. The TI and Rapture together are great.

Here's what I'm doing. My main soundcard is an RME MADI, so I'm not using the Virus as soundcard. My Sonar buffers are set to 1024 and in my RME ASIO panel, it's set to 128. With any VST synth loaded, I load in the Virus plugin and instantly all VST synths EXCEPT the Virus now have latency of about .25 -.5 seconds. Very occasionally, the latency will drift around &/or improve. Once whilst trying different buffer settings the latency went but when I did exactly the same thing again it did not go.

Hmmm...I'm not experiencing that problem, but I did discover a different problem with the beta OS. When I open an existing project that has the VC already inserted, it won't play the Virus parts because it automatically changed the VC instance to the Snow TI version, rather than the Virus version. So, I remove the Snow VC instance from the synth rack, insert the Virus version, reassign the MIDI/audio inputs/outputs, and the Virus then works fine. However, some of my other soft synths' MIDI and audio input/output assignments, as well as some patch assignments, get randomly reassigned somewhere in the process. Weird! Anybody else experience this?

i resolved myself looooooooooooooooooooooooooong ago to not use the TI in anything but "stand alone" mode and man, am i glad i did.
im glad because i have had 0 issues, no satan saw, no clicks, pops, glitches (except in Atomizer!), or anything of the sort. *
when i do attempt to use the VSTi version, i find it only useable in DIRECT mode (per channel) and although neat, i find it unispiring and frustrating.
when i get home i'll put the beta on it and see if there are any changes of note to us sonar users.
i too am glad they are acknowledging sonar users.

now if only access will come through with a stand alone version of the patch editor/browser, i'll be set.

*i hate that when working in SEQ mode in sonar and quitting sonar, it resorts back to "single" mode.

This is funny. I was just about to post a thread asking why in Sonar my Ti latency seems to be better than in any other host I have tried (apart from one - Cantabile but that is just a minihost)

I also love Sonar for being the only app that has a realtime freeze option - makes working with my Ti much easier. The only thing I would like more is I do a lot of knob tweaking and while it records the automation fine the track gets crowded with lots of envelopes and it would be useful to be able to place them in their own lanes.