Jonbouy

Bub

So does this mean that X2 has Expanded built in to it and there is no such thing as X2 Expanded?

Exactly that.

Cool. So it must come with the Softube Saturation Knob as well. Gee, glad I didn't spend a bunch of money on that. Oh wait, I did.

Doh! *fOlLoWeD bY hEaVy SlOw DeCaYiNg ReVeRb*

I turned on a console emulator and closed pro channel. Later I re-opened it and scroll wouldn't work and the console thing was greyed out. I turned on the EQ and it all came back on...minor things.

John

rumleymusic


Ah....

My bad ;).  Mouse wheel wasn't doing anything.

Now can you scroll the channel strip in the inspector?  That still seems to be locked in place.

No you can't.

That's strange, cos I can scroll the ProChannel in both Inspector or in Consol

I finally got a chance to try to recreate the Pro Channel scrolling issue that I'd seen (or at least one variation).  It turned out to be pretty simple to do with a very small project with 3 instrument tracks and 2 buses, each with enough Pro Channel Modules on it to need to be able to scroll.  Here is the problem report I just submitted to Cakewalk to describe it -- I'm guessing most should be able to recreate something similar to this pretty easily, with one key being to just select and unselect an applicable track, hovering your mouse over Pro Channel and using the scroll wheel in between, and sometimes switching back and forth between buses and tracks and doing the same in between. 
 
In my estimation, Pro Channel should always scroll (if scrolling is applicable on the track or bus) if you hover the mouse over it and use the mouse wheel.   You shouldn't have to click on a module in Pro Channel to restore scrolling functionality, and it should matter whether a track's selection is toggled or not.

CWBRN-11100 Pro Channel sometimes doesn't scroll when changing track/bus selection/focus
Steps to recreate:
1) Open sample project "X2 Pro Channel Scrolling Issue.cwp".
2) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
3) Click on the "1" in the Track 1 (Rapture instrument track) header in the tracks pane.
4) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
5) Click on the 2 in the Track 2 (Dimension Pro instrument track) header in the tracks pane.
6) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
7) Click on the 2 in the Track 2 (Dimension Pro instrument track) header in the tracks pane.
8) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
9) Click on the "1" in the Track 1 (Rapture instrument track) header in the tracks pane.
10) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
11) Click on the "A" in the Bus A (Master bus) header in the bus pane.
12) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
13) Click on the "A" in the Bus A (Master bus) header in the bus pane.
14) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
15) Click on the "1" in the Track 1 (Rapture instrument track) header in the tracks pane.
16) Hover your mouse over Pro Channel and move the mouse wheel.
Expected results:
In all even number steps above, the Pro Channel modules should scroll.
Actual results:
The Pro Channel modules scroll in steps 2, 6, and 10, but they do not scroll in steps 4, 8, 12, 14, and 16.

Rick

synkrotron

John

rumleymusic


Ah....

My bad ;).  Mouse wheel wasn't doing anything.

Now can you scroll the channel strip in the inspector?  That still seems to be locked in place.

No you can't.

That's strange, cos I can scroll the ProChannel in both Inspector or in Consol

He's talking console channel strip, not PC. The channel strips in Inspector do NOT scroll and never did.
 
Most users don't think about this feature. But if your screen resolution is less than 1080 pix in height you can't see the whole channel strip in Inspector making it rather useless.
 
This will reqire a feature request for future releases. Mine's in. PLEASE submit one too...
Three? Four? Even more. The more who do, the more chances it will happen.
 
Inspector "channel strip" scrolling. Request it today!
 
As far as PC scrolling goes, you have to select it first by clicking somewhere in the PC rack before it will scroll. If you find it scrolls without doing this its because its already selected or "hot".
 
 
Steve

The channel strips in Inspector do NOT scroll and never did.

They do if you undock the Inspector & float it

Ah, Sorry Steve, I missed that because I thought we were talking about the ProChannel scrolling here. And I've never noticed that the channel strip doesn't scroll in Inspector because I never use Inspector to make any adjustments to the channel. I use Console View for that.

But if it helps, I'll raise a feature request.

cheers

andy

Bristol_Jonesey

The channel strips in Inspector do NOT scroll and never did.

They do if you undock the Inspector & float it

That's weird cause mine doesn't! I think there would be little reason for it to anyway since you can now resize the floating window as you like.
 
Steve

soens
As far as PC scrolling goes, you have to select it first by clicking somewhere in the PC rack before it will scroll. If you find it scrolls without doing this its because its already selected or "hot". 
 

If this is indeed intended behavior, then I would have to consider it a design flaw.  There should be no ambiguity, if you are hovering your mouse over Pro Channel and turn the wheel, that it is Pro Channel you are expecting to scroll.  Similarly, if you are hovering over the Track View portion of the screen and do the same, there should be no ambiguity that it is the tracks you mean to scroll.  (Just looking into the behavior there now with my test case for the Pro Channel scrolling, I see that also only scrolls some of the time, and something as simple as selecting/unselecting a track by clicking on its number in the track header can toggle whether it scrolls or not.  That *has* to be a bug given Track View still has focus in that case.)
 
See my bug report above, though.  You will see from that report that simply clicking on a track header (in Track View) twice in a row will toggle whether Pro Channel (in the Inspector) scrolls or not -- no clicking on Pro Channel itself necessary.  That is not necessarily true, though, if clicking on a bus in the bus pane of Track View.
 
In general, this seems to me an issue of keeping track of focus and/or context.  In fact, the other thing I have seen that relates to this, but for which I have yet to find a simple recipe to reproduce it, is that sometimes the channel strip shown in Pro Channel does not change when you change which track or bus has the focus in the Track View.  I believe I have seen it most frequently when switching between buses and tracks (i.e. as opposed to just changing which track has the focus when already focusing on a track or changing which bus has the focus when already focusing on a bus), but it is not something that happens every time, either, unlike with the Pro Channel scrolling behavior as documented in my bug report.
 
Rick

There should be no ambiguity, if you are hovering your mouse over Pro Channel and turn the wheel, that it is Pro Channel you are expecting to scroll.

I agree with this.  In most programs with locking windows that is how it works because it is instinctual and productive. Another thing that should be feature-requested.  


...now if I can only get X2 to stop crashing every time I try to insert a file from the media browser