• SONAR
  • X2 and M Tron PRO
2012/09/25 23:53:22
jimkleban
Does anybody have this plugin to test something for me in X2?  I am getting way too much note drift to be realistic on alot of the samples.

One in particular is the BASS ACCORDIAN... if I hold down a note for the complete 8 seconds, I can hear it drift almost semi tones in both directions.

Can you confirm this on your system please?

Thanks,
Jim

2012/09/25 23:56:45
Glyn Barnes
I can test it but it won't be for another week I am afraid.
2012/09/26 05:23:35
cecelius2
I did a quick test by putting Guitar Rig's tuner in the fx bin on the track with M-Tron Pro.  I noticed up to 15 cents movement on some of the notes; some had only 6 cents fluctuation over the 8 seconds; others seem to be more "stable" with little drift.  

I wonder if this is just the "authenticity" of the tapes that were sampled; perhaps the tapes had that drift on them.  If I remember they were very temperamental.
Anyway, there was drifting that was noticeable on a tuner.  Hope that helps.

2012/09/26 06:38:37
jimkleban
Thanks for the feedback... the odd thing here is that sometimes the drift disappears and other times it is unbearable.  When I was using the 32 bit version under X1, I had the same problem but I am BETA testing the x64 version and under X1, the drift was gone completely.  

Now, with X2 and the x64 version, this unbearable pitch drifting is back.

Hmmmm

Jim

2012/09/26 06:56:43
Glyn Barnes
jkleban


I am BETA testing the x64 version 


Now that is good news, as long as they get it working properly of course. Hopefully they will do a 64 bit MiniMonsta too.
2012/09/26 08:13:18
Funkybot
jkleban


Thanks for the feedback... the odd thing here is that sometimes the drift disappears and other times it is unbearable.  When I was using the 32 bit version under X1, I had the same problem but I am BETA testing the x64 version and under X1, the drift was gone completely.  

Now, with X2 and the x64 version, this unbearable pitch drifting is back.

Hmmmm

Jim

Considering these only have a single sample per key, the drift should either exist on a note, or not be present at all. Sounds like you should report as a bug to G-Media.
2012/09/26 13:30:30
pwal
i'm using both minimonsta and m-tron pro as x64 native plugs (as i understand it, they've only the installers left to finish before coming out of beta, and the instruments both seem fine to me) so i will check & report back, but with one caveat: it won't be in x2 as i don't have it, but rather live & s1v2 (both x64 hosts)
2012/09/26 13:58:01
yorolpal
I've got the original MTron not the Pro.  But I'll check er out.
2012/09/26 19:22:46
jimkleban
To me it is so bad (but not bad always) that I might just do a clip so you guys that hear a "wow and flutter" can confirm that the drift is as bad as the audio.

It is very strange.

Will keep you posted.

Thanks,
Jim


Well, I decided to record the horrible pitch wandering but you are not going to believe this but... the terrible pitch wandering has stopped with the exact same patch, loaded into the same signal chain, playing back the exact same MIDI tracks...  Now, I am thinking that since I didn't turn my DAW off since yesterday, perhaps GFORCE actually emulates that once the TRON warms up, it is more stable?  NAH.... but who knows.
2012/09/29 14:17:50
pwal
reporting back: like cecelius2, just a small (<15c) drift here which i assume is "authentic"ness, but nothing like a semi-tone, the dll is v1.0.0.50... hth
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