2011/09/22 09:04:49
The Maillard Reaction

I can not think of any one that frequents the CH that this applies too... but I figure it's a good place to start a reasoned dialog... so here goes:


I just wanted to post a reminder about something that is easy to observe here at the forum.

In addition to the obvious psychotics, that troll the forums and make opportunities to judge and insult other posters, we can observe a second set of posters who encourage their heros and seem to enjoy the thrill of the insult vicariously.

You'll see that sort of activity manifested as "LMAO" or "+1" and less than obvious stuff like that. It may seem casual and cursory but at the core is the very same disrespect for a person that doesn't comply to some prescribed behavior that the people who take the time to write the actual insults portray.


I'm pointing this out because I find it ironic that some effective and helpful posters also make little jabs and cheap shots when the opportunity is set up by the professional grade insulters. I think it is far beneath their behavior... but they do it... and they do it because, no matter how sincere their desire to help, they seem to embody a basic disrespect for people they do not understand or relate to...

...and that's freaking evil!!!




So please, everyone, think for your self, be who you want to be... and please consider where, how, if, why you might casually lend approval to some insult or expression of disdain.


I hope other people will reflect on this and develop their own specific opinions.




My opinion is that I reserve the right to hurl an insult... but I almost always regret it... and I obligate myself to acknowledge my intent... which usually helps me craft a more effective insult.

I don't have any more respect for the guys that pile on with a lame "+1" and pretend it never happened than the guys that try to be obvious about it.


I think it's important to work towards self discipline by giving careful consideration of whether you actually want to be hurtful when you post a comment. I think that this may introduce opportunity for people to recognize something they may not wish to foster within their own personality. The first step is acknowledgment.




Check your hat at the door.


I now cede the floor to the bapsi....


all the very best,
mike







2011/09/22 09:15:04
Guitarhacker
+1.....


 oh wait... 

"start a reasoned dialog" here? 

nah... forget it. 




2011/09/22 09:39:25
trimph1
Upstairs has been a little on the warm side lately...

But, yeah, I can see where this is coming from.  A lot of strange stuff going on.


2011/09/22 09:47:27
ProjectM
TBH....:


I think most posters upstairs have been jerks irritating lately.

Not just the ones who seem to piss everyone else off.


Just saying...

It's probably the winter coming
2011/09/22 11:14:49
Kalle Rantaaho
The devil in me always raises it's well built head when I sense a pampered person coming here to be spoonfed.
That's when I can't always resist being blunt, and I also understand bluntness by others in such situations.
Misinterpretations do take place...there's no denying...and I try to remember to apologize when I catch myself being guilty of such.

I wouldn't say "upstairs" is exceptionally rough at the moment, or maybe I'm just hard headed. There are the ones
who jump to conclusions too fast, or the ones who don't know that they don't know, or the ones who have burnt their fuses with the teething problems of X1, or the youngsters who haven't yet realised that all on the forum are not 18 year old drum´n´bass "producers", etc.,  but they are seldom intentionally jerks, they just boil over.

Or maybe I just havent stumbled on the right threads...
2011/09/22 11:21:58
dappa1
I agree oops

+1

Mike it seems as if some were trying to say to you stay in the Coffee House like you shouldnt formulate an opinion upstairs. So basically once your in the Coffee House your in the Coffee house bound never to leave again unless your opinions are the same as those that inherently run the forums upstairs.

Stark reality of when you let the people take control
2011/09/22 11:24:50
ProjectM
ProjectM


TBH....:


I think most posters upstairs have been jerks irritating lately.



Fixed


I agree Kalle
2011/09/22 11:28:25
trimph1
Well..one mistake I made was when one of the John's...I forget who now..started in on the 'winning vs losing' thing...he just seemed to pile on the enemy imagery something fierce...and I just asked why that imagery needed to be used...

I've generally tried to not upgrade until it had gone a couple of stages..why?

Because, in my experience, I usually got clobbered with all kinds of bugs right from the get go...and not just here...
2011/09/22 11:29:21
The Maillard Reaction

How about this?

"Why don't you two go and make your own thread to have rough sex in or something?"


Just to be clear the adjective *rough* is a very specific and familiar term to the person who made the statement.



BTW Kalle, I personally feel that when helping someone that some times blunt is an effective and proper approach... in my mind the key ingredient is a sincere intention that the bluntness opens up opportunities for learning on the part of the recipient.

There is a big difference between forcefully advising someone that they really need to do their own homework to accomplish understanding and simply making fun of someones level of confusion by creating even more confusion.

I think it's easy to to see the core message either way.


best regards,
mike
2011/09/22 11:29:51
space_cowboy
I blame myself
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