eph221
There are different levels of musicianship.  Cave men banged bark, was the cave man a musician?  Is ozzy osbourne a musician?

Anyone who makes music is a musician. What's your point?

eph221
There are different levels of musicianship.  Cave men banged bark, was the cave man a musician?  Is ozzy osbourne a musician?

Not fair ... Ozzy is a CLOWN, not a singer or musician!

Moshkito

eph221
There are different levels of musicianship.  Cave men banged bark, was the cave man a musician?  Is ozzy osbourne a musician?

Not fair ... Ozzy is a CLOWN, not a singer or musician!

 
Wipe your feet, you just trod in yourself again.

jamesg1213

eph221
There are different levels of musicianship.  Cave men banged bark, was the cave man a musician?  Is ozzy osbourne a musician?

Anyone who makes music is a musician. What's your point?

Exactly.
 
Of course, one could append any number of appropriate epithets to the term - good/bad, pro/amateur etc.
 
What might actually prove more taxing might be to try and accurately define "music".
 
 

jamesg1213

Moshkito

eph221
There are different levels of musicianship.  Cave men banged bark, was the cave man a musician?  Is ozzy osbourne a musician?

Not fair ... Ozzy is a CLOWN, not a singer or musician!

 
Wipe your feet, you just trod in yourself again.

Moshkito

eph221
There are different levels of musicianship.  Cave men banged bark, was the cave man a musician?  Is ozzy osbourne a musician?

Not fair ... Ozzy is a CLOWN, not a singer or musician!

 
Ozzy "wrote" the melodies to much of the material he sang. I keep seeing some of his ex-collaborators (rightfully frustrated over royalties) dismissing his creative input. As someone who has written a gazillion "instrumental" songs and unfinished projects for lack of a vocal line, I believe that coming up with a good, catchy/memorable melody is not that easy. 
 
Anybody who think they can dismiss Osbourne's entire catalog with Black Sabbath and as a solo artist is a joker.
 
I get the impression that Ozzy is a lot smarter than he likes to show... Because, yes he IS a clown. But I have a feeling that there's a lot more to the man than that persona. 

Sounds like some folks need to watch less reality TV and listen to more early Sabbath.

batsbrew
singers are the first musicians.

 
In the early church, only vocal music was considered appropriate for performance in a religious setting.  Instrumental music was considered profane.

Rain

Moshkito

eph221
There are different levels of musicianship.  Cave men banged bark, was the cave man a musician?  Is ozzy osbourne a musician?

Not fair ... Ozzy is a CLOWN, not a singer or musician!

... 
I get the impression that Ozzy is a lot smarter than he likes to show... Because, yes he IS a clown. But I have a feeling that there's a lot more to the man than that persona. 

Agreed. But some folks here would rather be rude and not get the joke in reverse! Sadly, they are just being defensive about the songs they like, and that has specifically NOTHING to do with music, or people's opinions of said subject!
 

 
 
 

 
Kenny