Hi all,
 
V-Drums pro TD-10 (but just for MIDI, I'm not using the brains sounds)
Sonar Platinum
Addictive Drums (but probably others later)
 
Question: I've done the drum mapping and mostly have the instruments like I want them, but the hi-hat functionality is funky. Specifically, there are various sounds for hi-hat open and closed, but I'm looking for that sweep between, the sound you get when you hit it and open it up with the sound gradually changing.
 
Is that just the pitfall of driving plug-ins? Because the TD-10 itself does it well, and those are ROM samples, right?
 
I'm guessing that it's in the MIDI CC codes, and I know where to find those pages in the manuals and can see them in the Event view when I record MIDI, I'm just am not sure how to drive the ADrums to get this same sound. Can I get a leg up?
 
Thanks, Chris
 
 

>> I've done the drum mapping and mostly have the instruments like I want them, but the hi-hat functionality is funky.
 
Yes. I think this is because of the way Addictive Drums has implemented hi-hat control - it's different from the "Roland standard".
 
I also have a Roland FP-8 (?) hihat pedal, and I gave up trying to capture a hihat performance when driving AD.
 
That said, I love AD and I'm not really proficient at a drum kit style controller, so I'm content. Other E-Drum players should probably give you better advice about how to integrate with AD or what alternative works better.

I got that sound with AD2 and adjusting the "Foot Splash Sensitivity" at Mapping/CC Hihat.
This is when your foot hits the pedal full on to get the cymbals to hit together for that open sound.  
It works great on my TD-6 Mapping. 
Just play with the sensitivity tool in this area. 

Rimshot
I got that sound with AD2 and adjusting the "Foot Splash Sensitivity" at Mapping/CC Hihat.
This is when your foot hits the pedal full on to get the cymbals to hit together for that open sound.  
It works great on my TD-6 Mapping. 
Just play with the sensitivity tool in this area. 

Rimshot please explain more. For precisely the reason of the OP I've given up using AD2. I can get everything to work with AD2 to capture our Roland TD12 live performance tracking except the hihat foot pedal. I thought I had tried absolutely everything.

I've played with the sensitivity adjustments for the hihat pedal plenty in AD2 with absolutely no luck. Where are you referring to?

I should add that AD2 does not even capture the timing of the hihat. All of the other drum softsynths and drum modules capture the hihat performance perfectly, just not AD2. So I'm very interested.

"This is when your foot hits the pedal full on to get the cymbals to hit together for that open sound."
 
Rimshot, if by that you mean the sound that you get without using sticks, where you hit the pedal hard and let up for that open sound, that's not what I'm talking about.
 
Imagine this sound, using sticks: Tch, Tch, Tch, Tchhhhhhh, Tch, Tch, Tch, Tchhhhhhh, Tch, Tch, Tch, Tchhhhhhh, 
 
I'm talking about the sound that the high hats make between the 3rd "Tch" and the "Tchhhhhhh" (or starting with the closed hit for the start of the "Tchhhhhhh"), then the sweep before the hats are fully open.
 
Example: the first 4 bars of Steely Dan's "I Got The News", the hi-hat sound on the 4 beat of each bar.
 
 

lawajava,
 
I do have a work-around in mind, but haven't tried it yet. Record the midi for all pads of your TD except the hi-hat, then send the TD hi-hat only to the audio outputs of your TD (I'm thinking outputs #3 or 4, but I'm not sure if your model has the 3 and 4 outputs for unprocessed sends).
 

I think what you're wanting is called, "variable hi-hat control"
I don't know if Addictive drums has this or superior (it may go by another name) but BFD3 does and I have used it
when programming in the piano roll and it does exactly as you describe going from closed to open hat quite seamlessly as a drummer would.
 
Since you mentioned you might get others later now might be a good time to tell you that BFD3 is currently on sale as of today until April 16th for half price.
 
Actually there are two versions, the boxed version which is on sale less 43% and the download version on sale less 50% so now might be a good time to visit the FXpansion Shop
 
Steve

You can do it with AD.  Make sure you are sending c.c. 04 and make sure you are using a variable HH in AD.  In the maps window there is section for setting up your HH.  

vintagevibe
You can do it with AD.  Make sure you are sending c.c. 04 and make sure you are using a variable HH in AD.  In the maps window there is section for setting up your HH.  

Already tried that with no improvement for our Roland TD-12 hi hat. I'm very open to suggestions. Would love to make it work. Timing for hi hat pedal is way off, even though for other softsynth drums it's right on. I'm frustrated but willing to keep going after a solution if there's something that breaks the roadblock issue. The kits sound awesome, just not the hi hat live performance recording timing.

lawajava

vintagevibe
You can do it with AD.  Make sure you are sending c.c. 04 and make sure you are using a variable HH in AD.  In the maps window there is section for setting up your HH.  

Already tried that with no improvement for our Roland TD-12 hi hat. I'm very open to suggestions. Would love to make it work. Timing for hi hat pedal is way off, even though for other softsynth drums it's right on. I'm frustrated but willing to keep going after a solution if there's something that breaks the roadblock issue. The kits sound awesome, just not the hi hat live performance recording timing.

I don't know about the TD-12 but I'm using a Roland HH pedal through an old SPD20 and it's working fine.