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  • (SOLVED!) Sonar X1 projects won't load in X2 (also, won't load Garritan Plug-in) (p.2)
2012/09/24 08:29:57
skitch_84
daveny5


What soundcard? Computer specs? 
Windows 7 64-bit OS
Dell - Intel Core i5 (2.67 GHz) - 8GB RAM - stock sound card (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC, Intel(R) Display Audio).
2012/09/24 08:30:35
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
Yes.  Divide and conquer :).   If you're using GPO primarily, it may be an issue across-the-board?  If so, it may even be an audio issue.  I can't stress enough how important it is to confirm matched settings between X1/X2.  Particularly stuff in the Audio section, like Driver Mode.  You may also want to try "Reset Config to Defaults" in the Configuration File section.
2012/09/24 09:01:29
skitch_84
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk
]

Yes.  Divide and conquer :).   If you're using GPO primarily, it may be an issue across-the-board?  If so, it may even be an audio issue.  I can't stress enough how important it is to confirm matched settings between X1/X2.  Particularly stuff in the Audio section, like Driver Mode.  You may also want to try "Reset Config to Defaults" in the Configuration File section.

Okay, so I found a couple of inconsistencies between the setting on X1 and X2. The Driver Mode on X1 was set to MME (32-bit), but X2 was set to WDM/KS. So I changed X2 to match X1. Then I checked the VST Scan Folder(s) under VST Settings. I saw that X1 was scanning

-c:\program files (x86)\cakewalk\vstplugins
and
-c:\program files\vstplugins\garritan

But, X2 was set to scan 

-c:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins [not (x86)]
and
-c:\program files\vstplugins\garritan

I changed X2 to match X1.

I also "reset config to defaults" and rescanned vstplugins.

This has at least fixed the audio issue (weird static) I was getting when using GPO. I still can't load my original work file unless it's in Safe Mode though. I will try to load it in Safe Mode, reinsert the GPO plug-in, reassign my tracks to it and see if I can continue my project from there. I haven't tried to look at other older projects of mine that I used GPO with yet, but if this is a consistent issue, I hope we can figure out some way to fix it. It's quite a lot of work to have to reassign all of the tracks (and remix) to a reinserted GPO plug-in.

Thanks for helping me this far! I'm really happy that at least I'll be able to use GPO in new projects. I'm excited to actually use X2 now :)

Now, onto the World Instruments expansion. How in the world do I go about finding where that is saved!




2012/09/24 09:09:55
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
Good.  Progress!  The re-insert/rebuild solution was only realistic if it was just that one project.  I understand it's a lot of work.

In the VST Preferences, there's a button labeled "Reset All VST Plug-ins."  Try pushing that and re-scanning again.
2012/09/24 09:14:34
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
Another thing.  Since you have a 64bit VST path in X2 and 32bit path in X1, it seems to me that you may be running X1 in 32bit.  Try installing and running SONAR X2 32bit.  Let us know if you still see the problems in that case.
2012/09/24 09:22:43
skitch_84
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk
]

Another thing.  Since you have a 64bit VST path in X2 and 32bit path in X1, it seems to me that you may be running X1 in 32bit.  Try installing and running SONAR X2 32bit.  Let us know if you still see the problems in that case.
Would this require me to uninstall and then reinstall X2? Or is there a way to choose 32 or 64 after it's already been installed?

Also, update on the "missing" World Instruments expansion. My apologies. They weren't missing at all. The error I was getting was concerning the "Cakewalk Studioverb" plugin. Has this not been included in X2? The reason I thought it was my expansion missing is because in the project that I was loading I exclusively used instruments from the World Instruments expansion. I saw all of those instruments' names come up saying something was missing and missed that it was actually the "Studioverb" plugin. 

2012/09/24 09:58:20
bvideo
For your expansion pack problem, it would not be entirely surprising if your X2 installation failed to find and use the same multisamples folder you used in your X1 installation. So if you reinstalled Dim Pro as part of installing X2, all the included multisamples might be duplicated, possibly into the default multisamples folder, unless you selected yet another multisamples location. Meanwhile, your expansion packages are still in your original installation's multisample location. There's a good chance this would make your expansion packs unavailable in X1, too, because Dim Pro looks globally into just one multisamples location.
2012/09/24 10:07:10
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
Yes.  When you run the installer you get the option between 32 and 64bit.  You can have both installed simultaneously.  I think we've figured out something important, as Studioverb is not available in the 64bit version (if I recall correctly).
2012/09/24 13:34:36
daveny5
You're not going to get good results using Sonar with a stock soundcard. 
2012/09/25 08:40:03
skitch_84
daveny5


You're not going to get good results using Sonar with a stock soundcard. 

Since I'm using a laptop (without an ExpressCard port), my only option would be to buy a USB-style external soundcard. You, or anyone, wouldn't happen to have a recommendation for one, or any advice on what to look for would you?
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