Hello

I am going to make a template for Sonar X2, where I am using the NI Maschine as a major drum production unit. Thus I want to sequence Maschine from X2 and use one sound (pad) per channel (16 different) for lets say Kick, Snare, Toms etc. I did find a tutorial for this, but thats for Ableton Live, so didn't figure it out really. Hopefully someone can help me out how to set this up.

Question 1
I guess I change each drum sound to a different midi channels. How do I route Maschines outputs? From Sound, Part or Group? 
How should I set up the Sound Midi Batch Mode (from Maschine Software - Pattern selection area below)

Question 2
What options do I use when inserting Maschine as a synth in Sonar X2?
- Singel instrument track, and then insert midi tracks or other options?

Thanks!

here is mine: http://thehydrilla.com/mu...schine%2016%20Outs.cwx ..... place it in you track template folder (press p and go to File > Folder locations to find out where exactly). It is set up so all the pads in Group A have their own audio track. i found sequencing in machine and then dragging the midi to the 1 midi track in the template was the easiest way to go about things although you could record straight to the midi track. when drag dropping MIDI from maschine choose the 3rd option.

Hey


Thanks! Great, will check this out:)

perfectprint


here is mine: http://thehydrilla.com/mu...schine%2016%20Outs.cwx ..... place it in you track template folder (press p and go to File > Folder locations to find out where exactly). It is set up so all the pads in Group A have their own audio track. i found sequencing in machine and then dragging the midi to the 1 midi track in the template was the easiest way to go about things although you could record straight to the midi track. when drag dropping MIDI from maschine choose the 3rd option.

Hello perfectprint

Thanks for you template.
I tried it out, and it works fine and looks tidy:)

However, I still want to make the kick, snare etc on individual channels and record them into Sonar.

How do I do this?

Thanks again!

I recently picked up a Maschine Mikro and I'm not 100% on how to program it yet. This is what I've come up with so far. Use ACT to control the Transport controls (play,rec,restart, undo...) in Sonar and use Low Notes (C1, D1...) in the Maschine Control software. Use Right Click Remote Control in Sonar to assign the Faders and knobs, in Maschine Conrol use Control Change (not sure bout this, I'm not using faders on the Mikro). Then use Notes on the Pads in Maschine Control to line up with what you want in Sonar. Maschine Control and Sonars notes might be 2 Octaves off. Here's my current  16 pad line-up for EZ Drummer Claustrophobic. Those are Maschine Control notes.
 
Ride (D#2) - Closed Hat (A#-1) - Open Hat (D0) - Shaker (D#8)
Snare1 (F#3) - Snare2 - (D1) - L Crash (C#2) - R Crash (A2)
Tom1 (C2) - Tom2 (A1) - Tom3 (G1) - Tom4 (F1)
Kick1 (B0) - Kick2 (C1) - Splash (G2) - Bell (F2)
 
I love my Maschine Mikro. The pads are very responsive and I like how it lights up. It's so easy to make a layered drum track once the Transpor Controls are set up.

no problem. okay, so you mean you want to have 16 midi tracks to correspond to the 16 audio tracks? try this...... clone the midi track 15 times. set them to receive all inputs MIDI omni. next change the midi channel on each track to 1 through 16 (this will send midi messages to each of the 16 pads in maschine). relabel all the midi tracks also to keep track. change maschines Sound MIDI Batch Setup to the second option. Now you should be able to have full keyboard control over each pad on each midi track. It will allow you to do pitched tom rolls play any instrument that you load onto a pad.

Hello

Yes perfectprint, I want to have 16 midi trax to correspondent to the 16 audio tracks

I tried your solution, (using your template) and the inserting a midi track, changed the settings for this track to try it out. When arp Record button, nothing is recorded. (Wish I could include a screen dump).

Or should I only go for the first track (Out 1) and duplicate this one?

You guys are doin' it all wrong (not that there's a wrong way to be creative). The idea with Maschine is to Lay your tracks individually INSIDE Maschine (inside Sonar), Otherwise you're kinda missing the whole Loop concept. Best parts of this is automating FX and saving your automation tweaks per pattern etc. You just load the samples and play your keyboard, make the patterns INSIDE Maschine. No need for indvidually routing everything, the midi keyboard should play whatever channel or sound is in focus. Once every things laid, then bounce the Maschince down to separate groups or individual sounds via File, bounce, select the tracks (this is inside Maschine). Import them back to Sonar and you're ready to go. This is one of the things I love about maschine is not touching the mouse in sonar. Browsing and loading while the track is playing, trying sounds, loading other sounds, loading fx, automating fx. You can play all individual patches and sounds from the same keyboard or from Maschine itself.

I'd have to agree with blogman. If you do go with the routing method, one of the things you'll find annoying about Maschine inside Sonar is that you can assign a pad to an audio output, but as soon as you change the sound on that pad, it will automatically reassign itself to group/master! obviously highly annoying as you have to go into the pad audio routing again and change it.

I did post on NI forums about this and this is just the way its designed. As above, i tend to now make most of the parts in Maschine standalone, then import the parts into Sonar for mixing. 

Hello

Great with some more feedback:)

Yeah, I must say that it is nice to program loops and changing sounds in the Maschine. I haven't had my Maschine that long, so I am trying to find my "creative path" when using it.

One thing I find rather important is to be able to mix the drums on separate track in Sonar. As I understand it Blogman and BarryL bounce the patterns in Maschine first, the importing the audiofile in Sonar and mix them there. I will try this out now:)