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  • BUMP FOR X2: attempting to get up to speed on x1, having a terrible time with it...
2011/05/06 19:42:31
newfuturevintage
I've been using Sonar since 3, and progressed through all versions except 7 and 8.5.  I'm trying to get up to speed on x1, and having a hell of a time doing so.  Setting aside for the moment my complete frustration in re-learning a tool I've been using for 7 years...

I haz questions:
is there a way to have more than 2 fx sends visible at all times in the console view?

is there a compact send view (CV) as in prior versions?

is there a way to make the font in the fx bins smaller so I can actually tell what plugin is where while using narrow strip mode in the console view?

are there known issues with quick fix build 246 hosing installs of x1b?  I just installed it and it seems to have corrupted my x1b install (xp 32 bit).  (program appears to launch OK, but crashes when loading any project.  Also crashes when loading in safe mode, and when trying to create a new project)

What tips do you have to make the program more small-screen friendly?  I've got everything as tight as I can seem to get it, and for my purposes (live recordings of up to 28 inputs), it's borderline unusable on my laptop (max screen res of 1280x800).

TIA


2011/05/06 19:49:22
HumbleNoise
newfuturevintage


I've been using Sonar since 3, and progressed through all versions except 7 and 8.5.  I'm trying to get up to speed on x1, and having a hell of a time doing so.  Setting aside for the moment my complete frustration in re-learning a tool I've been using for 7 years...

I haz questions:
is there a way to have more than 2 fx sends visible at all times in the console view?

Not that I know of. NOT a big fan of that limitation myself

is there a compact send view (CV) as in prior versions?

See above

is there a way to make the font in the fx bins smaller so I can actually tell what plugin is where while using narrow strip mode in the console view?

See above

are there known issues with quick fix build 246 hosing installs of x1b?  I just installed it and it seems to have corrupted my x1b install (xp 32 bit).  (program appears to launch OK, but crashes when loading any project.  Also crashes when loading in safe mode, and when trying to create a new project)

Not aware of that others may know more

What tips do you have to make the program more small-screen friendly?  I've got everything as tight as I can seem to get it, and for my purposes (live recordings of up to 28 inputs), it's borderline unusable on my laptop (max screen res of 1280x800).

Hit the 'C' key will disappear the Control bar. 'I' and 'B' will get rid of the Inspector and Browser. There's a compact mode for the Pro Channel as well but overall X1 doesn't play so nice with smaller screens.

TIA



2011/05/06 20:19:56
newfuturevintage
Thanks.  I was afraid of that. 

I picked up X1 in the buy 8.5 promo, so I'm d/l'ing 8.5 and putting that on the laptop, will see if that works any better for me, and maybe reserve x1 for the studio machine.

Any other workflow tips?  Prior versions of Sonar fit like a glove to my workflow; it feels like I'm working in a completely alien environment now.
2011/05/06 20:44:36
...wicked
It's a big change that's for sure.

I don't use the Console View really so I don't got any tips for you, but yeah the smallness is a pain.

Keep an eye out for the skin editor that should be coming out soon, that might help some of this pain.

I got a new GPU and displays when I got X1 which solved all the "bigness" probz, but yeah on a laptop? Ugh.

2011/05/06 20:49:09
A1MixMan
Try using screen sets. You can set up the screen the way you want it for a particular task and save it in a screenset for easy recall. This way you don't have to move screens around and constantly resize them.

I would also recommend the X1 tutorial vids at groove3.com

Great vids and it will get you up to speed with X1 quickly.
2011/05/09 15:51:35
newfuturevintage
A1MixMan


Try using screen sets. You can set up the screen the way you want it for a particular task and save it in a screenset for easy recall. This way you don't have to move screens around and constantly resize them.

I would also recommend the X1 tutorial vids at groove3.com

Great vids and it will get you up to speed with X1 quickly.


Yeah, I've been playing with them, but they really don't address the inefficient use of vertical space issue at all.  Have begun watching the groove3 vids as well. 

Fingers crossed for the forthcoming skinability.  That sounds like it's got the best chance of working.  As it stands now, for my particular laptop purposes, x1 may prove itself unusable.  Which is a shame. 
2011/05/09 21:59:17
A1MixMan
benstat's Sonar Plus program will allow you to get rid of the top title bar for a true full screen experience.


But X1 is really made to take advantage of big HD screens.
2011/05/09 22:36:10
chuckebaby
if your craSHING WHEN LOADING A PROJECT..ARE YOU USING TEMPLETES?..sorry caps..because i dont know if a templete file gets currupt if it will keep crashing you out.
2011/05/10 15:27:56
newfuturevintage
chuckebaby


if your craSHING WHEN LOADING A PROJECT..ARE YOU USING TEMPLETES?..sorry caps..because i dont know if a templete file gets currupt if it will keep crashing you out.


Nope.  It was crashing both on previously working saved sessions and on the normal template.  I reinstalled to x1b, and that fixed it.  I'll hold off on any further updates, as this appears to be stable.
2011/05/10 15:29:22
newfuturevintage
A1MixMan


benstat's Sonar Plus program will allow you to get rid of the top title bar for a true full screen experience.


But X1 is really made to take advantage of big HD screens.

That's probably the best short-term fix for what ails me.  If skinning comes and works, that might be the actual fix. 
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