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  • BUMP FOR X2: attempting to get up to speed on x1, having a terrible time with it... (p.2)
2011/05/10 17:20:47
newfuturevintage
The more I play around with x1, the more I'm coming to the conclusion it's unusable on my current sytem. 

to give a little more background of what I'm doing, this is how a typical project looks in 8.5, and it works quite well for me:



this is the same project opened in x1b, with the module settings as close to 8.5 as I could get them. 



As you can tell, there's a lot of info off-screen that I use fairly frequently: trim, automation read/ write enable, two fx sends, one fx bin entry, EQ plots, dB meter values, interleave and phase controls.  When I get to the mixing stage in a project, I'm almost entirely working in console view, so these omissions are a big deal.
I'd love to be able to display as much info in x1 as I can in 8.5, I could even do without the toolbars visible in the above 8.5 screenshot.  Max resolution on this screen is 1280 x 800, unfortunately. 

The vertical issue is the big deal breaker for me, but the loss of critical info in the narrow strip mode would also be a deal breaker.  Even on a very wide screen, I'd still need to use it for most projects I do, and the loss of critical icons in narrow strip mode are too sorely missed.

There are things I would really like to use, such as the pro channel, so here's to hoping skins will come/ work.  For the time being I am an unhappy camper with a saggy diaper that leaks.  I'll send this on to the bakers as well.  Thanks to everyone that chimed in.
2012/09/25 18:51:25
newfuturevintage
Quick bump for X2:

any improvements on these issues?

As it turned out, X1 was totally unsuitable for my purposes, and I ended up never using it, in spite of having paid for it.  (Well, having purchased a license for 8.5 because of the free upgrade to X1).

I just saw that X2 has come out, and some of the new features look attractive enough for me to pony up the $99 upgrade price if it'll be usable with my system.

I'm still on a limited screen-real-estate laptop, but have moved to Pro Tools / Reaper for that system for mobile use.  

I've got a new desktop system for mixing / non-mobile use with better screen real estate. 

So, some questions, if you don't mind:

1) what is the minimum vertical resolution I can use in the console view that will make it so I do not have to scroll vertically?

2) are more than 2 sends now able to be visible constantly?

3) are more than 3 inserts able to be visible in the fx bins?

4) can some of the 'lost icons' in narrow strip mode be brought back in narrow?  (interleave, phase, automation, etc)

Thanks
2012/09/25 21:19:22
ChuckC
I am curious too. I haven't moved off of 8.5 yet either.
2012/09/26 03:10:38
Bristol_Jonesey
Now that X2 has the ability to host vst plugins directly in the Pro Channel, you'll find the Fx bin is now totally redundant, so you can hide that.

X2 also has a full screen mode which does exactly what it says.

I like to do a lot of work in Console View, and I like to treat the Inspector as one giant right click option - float it in the middle of your screen and you have access to every single parameter and it always reflects the currently selected track.
2012/09/26 03:43:06
FastBikerBoy
Ref the sends. I came up with a screenset that was initally a workround but I use it all the time now and unless CW come up with a system to see 24 sends or more at once I'll probably stick with it even if they do increase the visible numbers.

Video showing what I mean and how to set it up HERE
I should also add that it works even better now since autozoom was introduced as there's no need to change all track heights at the initial stage. Also any added tracks now automatically follow the autozoom height so it's even dynamic to track additions.
HTH

2012/09/26 03:52:16
FastBikerBoy
Duplicate.....
2012/09/26 04:02:09
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
VERY clever work around, FBB.
2012/09/26 04:09:07
Bristol_Jonesey
Nice one Karl - I hadn't seen that one before
2012/09/26 04:15:10
John
That is brilliant!. 
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