If you just think it's a PITA that you get audio-outputs created that you're not going to use, because you'll only use two instruments in Kontakt I suggest you create a track template. 

Just set up everything as you want it and save it as a track template. You maybe want to unload any instrument in Kontakt before you save, so it won't load these every time you use the template. 

I use Loptec's method.

In fact, the first thing I've been doing in setting up X2 is to get my most common track templates set up. Then I just load them up in a Project template and get a whole setup already done. After that, I just delete the tracks I don't want instead of thinking how to add stuff that I do want.

I'm pretty sure I understand what you're looking for. We'll consider adding new functionality like that in the future. For now, you may want to consider creating Track Templates. This will save you from having to repeat setup work. Thanks!

Bill Jackson [Cakewalk] 

I'm pretty sure I understand what you're looking for. We'll consider adding new functionality like that in the future. For now, you may want to consider create Track Templates. This will save you from having to repeat setup work. Thanks! 

That's really cool! =)
(about getting a merged audio-MIDI-track as an option when adding outputs to an instrument track, that is)
 

arachnaut


I use Loptec's method. 

In fact, the first thing I've been doing in setting up X2 is to get my most common track templates set up. Then I just load them up in a Project template and get a whole setup already done. After that, I just delete the tracks I don't want instead of thinking how to add stuff that I do want. 

yeah. and if you already know how many outputs you'll use and don't want to delete the track you don't need after loading the track template, it's easy to create several track templates with different numbers of outs..

just name the track templates like;
Kontakt - 2 outs
Kontakt - 4 outs
Kontakt - 6 outs
..and drag in the template with the number of outs you want a the moment

arachnaut


Here is how I would do it. I just tested this and it works.
I have two virtual MIDI keyboards - one for channel 1 the other for channel 2.

'Kontakt 8 out' is loaded but I set up only channel 1|2 and channel 3|4, I'm not using channel 5|6 and 7|8 (you can see this in the Kontakt Output section)

Kontakt is set up to use Brass ensemble for Midi channel 1 and plugin stereo output 1 and 2
Cello is Midi channel 2 and plugin output 3 and 4

I set up Sonar track 1 to use Kontakt output 1 and 2 (Brass)  and track 2 to use 3 and 4 (Cello).

The other 2 tracks are not used.

You can open this image in a new window or download it to see it full sized (it is HD format):

thanks again for your time  ok but how do u compose your midi events with these audio tracks ?? 
it wants midi , so u need to add the midi tracks ...
it doesnt change what I wanted, 
maybe u didn't understand what i wanted lol
I explained it maybe better in the post for bill
I was just "complaining" about the long process
sorry if i made u lose your time : (

@Loptek

thank u for your advice 
it's not really a problem when it's kontakt8out,  only  4 tracks, and I just need to delete ..
but when it's 32 tracks, yeah .. u right, i will check about template 

@ Bill Jackson [Cakewalk] 

 Ohhh great ! thanks for your interest and helping ... 

toshiroo

thanks again for your time  ok but how do u compose your midi events with these audio tracks ?? 
it wants midi , so u need to add the midi tracks ...
it doesnt change what I wanted, 
maybe u didn't understand what i wanted lol

I suppose I don't follow you.


I compose one MIDI track per Kontakt instrument, just like any other instrument track. One track at a time.

Kontakt is multi-core aware, though, I just checked - so having everything in one instance is probably not a big deal.

arachnaut

toshiroo

thanks again for your time  ok but how do u compose your midi events with these audio tracks ?? 
it wants midi , so u need to add the midi tracks ...
it doesnt change what I wanted, 
maybe u didn't understand what i wanted lol

I suppose I don't follow you.


I compose one MIDI track per Kontakt instrument, just like any other instrument track. One track at a time.

Kontakt is multi-core aware, though, I just checked - so having everything in one instance is probably not a big deal.

What I think he wants is this:

• One instrument track with a merged audio-MIDI-track for the first instrument in Kontakt
• A second merged audio-MIDI-track for the next output in the same instance of Kontakt

As I'm sure you know, this isn't possible today.. But apparently (maybe) will be in the future, according to Bill =)

Horses for courses. I prefer having separate midi and audio tracks, for several reasons. First of all, because I am used to work with both hardware and software synths. I can change output data (midi)  routing from a software synth to hardware and back, clone tracks and whatever, much easily that way, and I do not have to touch the input (audio) tracks at all. Each synth has its own audio track always, software synths from the synth rack, hardware from their own soundcard input, and that stays that way in the console. Console shows only audio tracks, and I can group tracks in track view as it better suits me. I understand what toshiroo wants, and I am all for having one more option, but I do not find having distinct tracks messy at all, quite the opposite.