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2012/09/23 21:00:56
mudgel
On on my iPhone and Safari is misbehaving not letting quote or edit post properly.

To Startekh: The ASUS X79 boards don't have Thunderbolt. Only one of the lesser boards in that range have FireWire. Mine is the X79 Pro no FireWire. I have a SIIG FireWire Card that I had to get from the US to ensure a TI chipset. It runs flawlessly. When I was building the system I couldn't find a TI FireWire PCIe card anywhere in Australia. Go figure!
2012/09/23 21:15:38
StarTekh
Mudgel: thats a killer system 3930 is a awsom processor, you dont have to answer !
2012/09/23 21:34:58
mudgel
It is a killer system but I don't have anywhere to realy run it. After a year of planning and another 6 months our builder is only now about to start.
Everything's in storage on my land in a big ol shed but not much room for audio gear setup.
I've only just built the monster PC and tested it. All my useful stuff is on my laptop and the frustration is just about to kill me. I've now been a year without a studio setup of any kind, retired and going mad in one room with my wife while we continue to live with our daughter and family.
X2 has been a welcome distraction and for being only a few days after release X2 is light years ahead of X even after being out for nearly 2 years.
2012/09/23 21:42:57
gswitz
I am using X2 on Win 8 Enterprise X64 (Release to Manufacturing version).

I have had some goofy things happen with quick groups.
- add solo and mute to the same group... in the track view (not the inspector) clicking the solo toggles both, but clicking the Mute messes it up. In other words, I couldn't get things unmuted.
- I used quick groups to add the Channel Strip Emulator to 15 tracks (this worked... from console view, dragged across all the tracks and used a single one of the Pro Channels, holding down control key to add to all).
- Odd behavior as I started to convert them all to N Type. If you have two Console emulators in a quick group and one is S-Type and one is N-Type and you control click the S-Type to make it N-Type the N-Type moves over by one to become A-Type. This does not happen if one is A and one is N and you switch the N to A since the A has no where to move to the right. If they are the same, both N and you ctrl click A, they shift together.

Since there is a difference between Channel and Bus Console Emulators, I would prefer if that difference came first in the label so you could see the useful information upfront instead of a truncation of Console Emu... I know it's a console emulator... ha ha I don't know if I added Channel or Bus.

I absolutely love the full screen mode (F11).

I use a relatively old and cheap laptop which I got more than 5 years ago with Vista (I think anyway... round about there). It has 4GB RAM and the processor was slick for it's day. Processor and Memory get a 6.4 on Windows experience index for Windows 8. I've disabled the graphics Display Adapter and gone with Windows default to solve a DPC latency issue, so the Graphics Sub-score is 3.3.

I use a Line 6 tiny interface when traveling and an M-Audio Fasttrack Ultra at home. Nothing fancy and it's all working great. I've had one crash since upgrading and that was in a project I upgraded. I have had no issues with projects that started as X2.

Between X2 and Win 8, I'm definitely happier. Things are snappier. All is well.

On a side note, there's a loose screw between the chair and the keyboard that causes a problem (me). My work process follows this way... I work and work on my mix. I bounce, I listen, I mute the bounce, I listen to the tracks, I fix things, I delete the bounced mix, I bounce, I normalize, I multiband compression (lighter than light), I might use the channel tools to bring the louder side more center to balance the left and right channels, I normalize, boost11 to 1 DB or so, add clip fading > select the track, export > post for my friends > send out the link and race off to my day job

(did you see my screw up?)
Yep, I exported a muted clip. I do it all the time. Sometimes I burn the muted clip to CD haha.

I know it isn't a software bug, but it would save me some blank CDs if the software could advise after the export that all exported bits were 0 equivalent (I say equivalent b/c I don't think floats represent 0s precisely). I realize it wouldn't know until the export was done (maybe automation unmutes things), but after the export, it could advise me.

Thanks for listening.
2012/09/23 21:46:18
StarTekh
Win 8 Enterprise X64 (Release to Manufacturing version). lets hope cakewalk has a copy !!
2012/09/23 21:52:42
mudgel
Noel announced a Win 8 patch is in the works.
2012/09/23 22:16:36
gswitz
The biggest thing that has been bugging me in Win 8 is that shutdown seems to hibernate. If I hibernate or sleep without turning off my m-audio interface, the pc crashes when I bring it back up. If I turn off the m-audio first, no issues. So, when I'm in a hurry I just shutdown and then turn off all my other gear including the interface. But shutdown seems to hibernate. Executing Shutdown -s from the command line does an old school shutdown, but using the shutdown button (software button) seems to do something different and I can still get the crash if I haven't turned off the interface first.

The easy fix here is to shut off the interface and the hibernate, but it has been a break in my workflow that has taken some getting used to.
2012/09/23 22:57:43
Beepster
Thanks for the input, guys. Tune is done so X2 goes on the DAW tomorrow... if I have the energy. ;-)
2012/09/23 23:19:53
StarTekh
Beepster: smart move !!
2012/09/23 23:24:33
Glyn Barnes
John

No matter what you may have heard or read or even seen for yourself, Vista is a a great OS.  My only issue is the premature loss of support its getting.

When you and other talk about Win 7 being good I believe you. I have run it but for me it did nothing more than I got with Vista. I know few understand that but it is a fact. Really the two OS's are nearly identical.

Actually with Win 7 you actually loose things that came in Vista Ultimate. I will grant the performance may be marginally better in Win 7. But for me its simply not worth the upgrade to receive little in return. 
 

 
+1000
 
I have computers running both Windows 7 (internet, office etc.) and Vista 64 (DAW), I don't see Win 7 is worth the upgrade. (Cost in time and disruption as well as money). 
 
Vista is supported by Microsoft until April 2017 (extended support) but already third party software companies are discontinuing support. Who's to say you won't see the same thing happening with Win 7, its already 3 years old. When I change hardware I will go to Win 8.
 
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