• SONAR
  • Cant get Started on X1
2012/09/17 04:29:42
GeoRam
Hi guys, I've spent the weekend trying to figure out how to set up SONAR X1 with my recording equipment and I have literally gotten nowhere! Here is my set-up: HP Pavilion dv7 notebook PC AMD Phenom II N830 Triple Core Processor 2.10 GHz RAM-4.00GB (3.49GB usable) 64 bit operating System Sure X2U XLR-to-USB Signal Adapter Sure PG 42-Mic sennheiser hd280-mixing headphones I've worked with AA3 and FL10 for recording and mixing projects So I'm a bit familiar with setting up my hardware for those programs, however I have not been able to make it work for Sonar X1. I tried using the ASIO driver but it wont work no matter how I set it up on the ASIO. Any help or feed back on this is greatly appreciated. Thanks
2012/09/17 08:54:14
synkrotron
Shure are a reputable company, without a doubt, but this X2u product is a new one on me. I've had a look around the Shure website and I can't find any mention of being able to use this device with ASIO drivers.

Is the X2u the only interface you use? Just curious. It's not a particularly that great is it. I know you may be on a limited budget but I think you may be barking up the wrong tree with this one.

When you go to your preferences in X1, for playback and recording, do you not see the X2u as an available device?

If you can afford to get some new hardware then I would heartily recommend getting a Roland QUAD-CAPTURE, which is what I use with my laptop setup and it works a treat.


2012/09/17 09:02:09
RJN
If you right-click on the Windows speaker icon and select "recording devices", is your adapter set as the default recording device?  This should be set before you run SONAR.
2012/09/17 10:18:53
CJaysMusic
I would return he US mic and get a audio interface/sound card and a regular mic. Having a mic that also acts as an audio interface can cause problems and will hinder you, especially if you need to use ASIO driver modes.

I would do it the right way from the start.

CJ
2012/09/17 11:12:46
GeoRam
Hi guys thanks for the quick responses let me address each of the reply's.   @Synkrotron-Yes the X2U is the only interface that I have and use. I use the X2U in AA3 and FL10 Producer to record vocals with no problems, using the ASIO option, so I know it does work with the ASIO.   In playback & recording preferences in X1 it gives me the following options- WDM - WASAPI - ASIO - MME (32 bit).   When I clink on ASIO and got to devices I get the following options for both output and input drivers. ASIO4ALL v2 Shure Digital 1.   I'd have to save up for new hardware, but I'm perplexed because like I said I use this mic along with the Shure interface on AA3 and FL10 with no problems.   Also, forgot to mention I downloaded the SONAR X1 straight from the Cakewalk website this past Thursday, are their any patches or updates that I need, that did not come with my download?   @RJN - Just tried right clicking and set the Shure mic as default recording device, no change though.   This is what it says when I hit the play button. - Unable to open audio playback device. Device may not support the current projects audio format or may be in use. For help please visit: cakewalk.com/support/hardwaresetup/   I already wen to the link but could not find the answer to my problem.   @CJ - The mic is a Shure PG42 but it a condensor mic not a usb mic. The X2u interface is an XLR-to-usb interface though. I know there is a PG 42 usb mic but this one is not it it's the regular mic, that is the reason I bought the X2U interface.   I'm perplexed with the situation because I've been able to use this setup on AA3 and FL10 to recood vocals with no problems. Of course SONAR X1 is now the big leagues compared to those programs which is why I made the move to it.
2012/09/17 11:25:35
RJN
Well, I think there may be a few clues in that error message.  I see the Shure is a 16-bit device, so you need to set the bit-depth to 16-bit in the Preferences\Audio Devices settings in X1.
2012/09/17 11:38:54
Kalle Rantaaho
Note that ASIO4ALL is not an ASIO driver, it's a WDM wrapper. You might as well try WDM.
Although here
http://www.emusician.com/...ick-pick-review/143455

they say X2u and SONAR 8 worked only with ASIO4ALL.

And yes, there are patches to X1 you should install. I don't remember the names, 'cause I'm on SONAR 8.5.

Also check that SONAR is set to the same sample rate as the X2u. That error message often means they're not. And check that X2u is selected as both recording and playback timing master.

2012/09/17 11:42:50
GeoRam
It's already set up at 16 bit and its greyed out so that I cant change the option. I guess it read it automatically and it leaves it at 16 bit. Also as soon as i hit the apply it gives me an error code. The following drivers either do not support the current audio format or are in use by another application. Please choose whether you want to disable them or use them anyway. Also is there a reason that the MIDI/input/output acitivity icon come out on my taskbar with programs running?
2012/09/17 13:08:38
Guitarhacker
CJaysMusic


I would return he US mic and get a audio interface/sound card and a regular mic. Having a mic that also acts as an audio interface can cause problems and will hinder you, especially if you need to use ASIO driver modes.

I would do it the right way from the start.

CJ

Yep... 100% agreement on this reply.... it is the best way to do it. 
2012/09/17 15:51:55
GeoRam
@ Kalle- Well the X2U does work on WDM. Thanks for the tip. I'm going to try and find out what patches I need to download if any. On the other programs I plugged in my headphones to the actual laptop to give me the actual sound level that was being played on the program, but with WDM I have to plug in my headphones to the X2U and adjust the volumes on the interface itself. The only problem with that is that I may raise the volume to high on the interface and when the actual volume level on the X1 is too low. Any ideas on any fixes? I also have to look for a way to set up recording on X!. On Adobe I used a compressor than an EQ on the channel connected to the mic. Dont know if that will be the same here on X1.
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