https://app.box.com/s/6j3vxpc13fdsprafbl6j

specifically, how does this translate to headphones?
i'm working on a theory........

Translates very well! The equalization sounds perfect in my phones,everything is there where it should be. The song was well produced,alot of talent there. My only thing that I found was in the very beginning when the vocal started it seemed like it was getting buried by the guitars, then it was fine after that all the rest of the song. You done a great job on this !

Bat,
Great playing and parts.  The mix is not as clear or clean as your normal work.  
On speakers, I don't hear quite so much simbalence or very top end as in my cans (ATH-M50's).
There are also seems to be more apparent stereo width on speaker than headphone which is weird because it should be opposite that.
Have you applied some special stereo widening to the mix or certain instruments?  
 
Rimshot

Bat,
 
You continually give me something to aspire too.  My ears are just not good enough to find anything wrong with this mix.  Excellent musicianship, as always.  Man, I wish I could play like you.  I am assuming, as per usual, that all of your guitar tones are the real deal.  They sound great.  The vocals had a little bit of a Tommy Shaw feel for me.  Good song.  At your level of craftsmanship, I should probably try harder to find something to critique you on.....but I can't.  I think it all sounds great.
 
I like the title too. 

Bat, It all sounds pretty good on my Sennheiser HD 280 Pro Headset @64 ohms. The acoustic guitar at the start came in a bit loud and at the end, not being in balance with the rest of the song, but once everything else kicked in it seemed pretty balanced and had a really good stereo field for all of the instrumentation and for the vocals. There seemed to be good separation of everything and not congested in the middle. You do realize there are good headphones and crappy headphones and then their are great headphones like mine that are Hi Def with great tone spreads that give the music definition and clarity the way it should be heard. I have listened through just about every brand of headsets out there, at every dollar price you can come up with, but have never heard a better set than what I own right know. Not sure what your theory is, but I'm sure it will end up being interesting. Anyway, thanks for another really great live sound/ song, it was awesome.
 
Peace and Blessings, John
 
Be nice to hear comments from you!!

I'm going to go out on a limb; I think it sounded just like the CD version.

As per instructions I wound down the volume on my monitors.
 
Well it sounds pretty much how I would expect a Bat tune to sound on my Beyer dynamic DT100's, which is OK but then they are DT100's.
 
Then, because it is a Bat tune, I listened again on my Event 20/20's.
 
I know which I prefer.
 
 
 

teego
thanks for listening!
the vox, starting out, yes, i tend to do that on the very beginning, i'm trying to update and improve on that approach....
i like the listener to really have to dig into the entire mix, i mix it for the vox to blend and work as an instrument, NOT to stand out on top like a standard top 40 mix, where the vocal is really the only thing going on....
comes from listening to a lot of classic rock mixes, the AOR stuff, not the hits......!

 
 
 

rimshot
appreciate the comments, and yes, this one if a bit heavier, and more microphone and room use with the acoustics and electrics, whereas a lot of my other stuff is more direct electrics and tighter mic positions.
i do that with the idea that the sonics.... i want the sonics of an album's worth of songs to change from song to song,
i always write my songs with a group of songs in mind... and how it sounds from song to song.
i like a lot of changes.
so this was a denser, fatter mix.
seems like i'm getting a fairly consistent comment about sibilence or just high end, in the headphones, that did not translate into the speakers.
interesting.
that's what i'm looking for, some commonalities, that i can focus on mix wise....

on stereo widening:
there is no trickery (plugins) on the mix approach, just a lot of LCR, and some reverbs and delays that are opposite panned, to give that width.
that technique is pretty straightfoward, and typical, but it's very telling that it does not translate as well in the headphones.
some techniques just don't work for both.
i guess the human brain is just too smart for that.
it can figure it out (placement and depth perception).
i think it's fascinating.

I really like this Bat. Sounded very well balanced to me. Nice feel. At times it almost sounded like I was hearing some Jane's Addiction influence in there. Might have just been me. :) I liked the drum sound a lot. What are you using? Overall great tune that I've come to expect from you. Nice job.

I'm at work and listening through cheapo PC mini-headphones, but it translates well on these.  The only thing that caught me off-guard was the initial acoustic guitar strum on the right.   Aside from that, to be honest, I found that I liked the tune and forgot about the mix.